Here, again, is the video-version of a call to The Narrow Path radio program, concerning the celebrating of Christmas.
https://youtu.be/OrXbFJqmffA
Christmas -- Naughty or Nice?
Christmas -- Naughty or Nice?
'Tis the season!
Here, again, is the video-version of a call to The Narrow Path radio program, concerning the celebrating of Christmas.
https://youtu.be/OrXbFJqmffA
Here, again, is the video-version of a call to The Narrow Path radio program, concerning the celebrating of Christmas.
https://youtu.be/OrXbFJqmffA
Re: Christmas -- Naughty or Nice?
Steve has done an excellent job in explaining the historic origins of Christmas. I will just add a bit.
The birth of Christ was not celebrated until the fourth century. I understand that in the fourth century around December 25, Saturnalia was celebrated in honour of the god Saturn. Gold as well as small images of Saturn were exchanged, and there were some pretty wild parties going on. Bishop Liberius felt that this was not a good thing to happen in the "Holy Roman Empire" and so he tried to put a stop to it—unsuccessfully. Then a brilliant idea came to him. He changed the celebration from honouring Saturn to honouring Christ. In the Catholic Church of the day, three masses were held in honour of the three births of Christ: his birth before all ages—the first of God's acts, his birth from Mary, and his birth in the hearts of the faithful. Each of these masses was held in honour of Christ, and so each of them was a "Christ's mass" or as it came to be called "Christmas." However, Liberius' scheme did not stop the wild goings on in the Roman empire. The only major difference was that now they were in honour of a different god.
The Christmas tree was actually invented by Martin Luther. He put lights on his tree to represent the stars on the night of Christ's birth.
Personally, I have never celebrated Christmas in honour of Christ's birth. Celebrating Christ's birth was NOT an early Christian practice. However, I enjoy the lights and traditions of Christmas. So I have been involved in it simply as a festive season to meet with family and friends, give gifts, and have special meals together.
The birth of Christ was not celebrated until the fourth century. I understand that in the fourth century around December 25, Saturnalia was celebrated in honour of the god Saturn. Gold as well as small images of Saturn were exchanged, and there were some pretty wild parties going on. Bishop Liberius felt that this was not a good thing to happen in the "Holy Roman Empire" and so he tried to put a stop to it—unsuccessfully. Then a brilliant idea came to him. He changed the celebration from honouring Saturn to honouring Christ. In the Catholic Church of the day, three masses were held in honour of the three births of Christ: his birth before all ages—the first of God's acts, his birth from Mary, and his birth in the hearts of the faithful. Each of these masses was held in honour of Christ, and so each of them was a "Christ's mass" or as it came to be called "Christmas." However, Liberius' scheme did not stop the wild goings on in the Roman empire. The only major difference was that now they were in honour of a different god.
The Christmas tree was actually invented by Martin Luther. He put lights on his tree to represent the stars on the night of Christ's birth.
Personally, I have never celebrated Christmas in honour of Christ's birth. Celebrating Christ's birth was NOT an early Christian practice. However, I enjoy the lights and traditions of Christmas. So I have been involved in it simply as a festive season to meet with family and friends, give gifts, and have special meals together.
Paidion
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Re: Christmas -- Naughty or Nice?
Hey Paidion,
What would you (or anyone else) recommend as a reliable source for the origins of Christmas? I'd prefer something written and thorough. Thanks in advance.
What would you (or anyone else) recommend as a reliable source for the origins of Christmas? I'd prefer something written and thorough. Thanks in advance.
Re: Christmas -- Naughty or Nice?
I posted what I learned many years ago. If you google "origins of Christmas" you can get a lot of information; I don't know how reliable it all is. Here are two sites that provide some of the information that I gave, and more:
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/ ... lStory.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/ ... lStory.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas
Paidion
Man judges a person by his past deeds, and administers penalties for his wrongdoing. God judges a person by his present character, and disciplines him that he may become righteous.
Avatar shows me at 75 years old. I am now 83.
Man judges a person by his past deeds, and administers penalties for his wrongdoing. God judges a person by his present character, and disciplines him that he may become righteous.
Avatar shows me at 75 years old. I am now 83.
Re: Christmas -- Naughty or Nice?
If you missed it last year (or want to see it again), here is a video-version of a Christmastime call to The Narrow Path radio program
"Naughty or Nice"
https://youtu.be/OrXbFJqmffA
"Naughty or Nice"
https://youtu.be/OrXbFJqmffA
Re: Christmas -- Naughty or Nice?
Satan is very clever ... remove one "s" from the Roman Catholic "Christ-Mass" and the world is deceived ... and much of Christianity.