The "first death" and the "second death"

[Guest]

I concede that my method of arriving at "millions of years" may be unwarranted. Nevertheless, I don't think we can conclude that the Lake of Fire experience will be anything other than extremely unpleasant, or painful. We should not minimize that suffering in any way. As our Lord said:

Matthew 18:8 "If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it from you; it is better for you to enter life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be cast into the fire that goes from age to age.

Matthew 5:29 "If your right eye makes you stumble, tear it out and throw it from you; for it is better for you to lose one of the parts of your body, than for your whole body to be thrown into Gehenna

Paidion,

Maybe you are focusing on the wrong side (negative side) of the statement. Perhaps the point that Jesus is making is that the joy of eternal life is worth any price - even dismemberment. Just a thought.

Heb 12:2
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Todd

[Guest]

I concede that my method of arriving at "millions of years" may be unwarranted. Nevertheless, I don't think we can conclude that the Lake of Fire experience will be anything other than extremely unpleasant, or painful. We should not minimize that suffering in any way. As our Lord said:
I agree with your point that my presenting the LOF as a "fair haven" is scriptually misleading. I meant to portray more the fair part as righteous judgements.