The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

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The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by Mellontes » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:25 am

When the reader examines the following prophecies and fulfillments, not only will he find them perfectly fulfilled as to what Jesus said, but fulfilled right down to the exact Greek usage! After the Gospel was spread into all the "world," the end of the "world" would come, and come it did. However, it was not the end of the global, planetary world, often an interpretation of present day analysis; it was the end of the old covenant Judaistic system with its temple, rituals, and ceremony.

Prophecy:
Matthew 24:14 – And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world [oikumene] for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Fulfillment:
Romans 10:15-18 – And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world [oikumene].

Prophecy:
Mark 16:15 – And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world [kosmos], and preach the gospel to every creature.

Fulfillment:
Colossians 1:5-6 – For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; 6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world [kosmos]; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:

Prophecy:
Mark 16:15 – And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature [ktisis].

Fulfillment:
Colossians 1:23 – If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature [ktisis] which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

Prophecies:
Matthew 28:19 – Go ye therefore, and teach all nations [ethnos], baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Mark 13:10 – And the gospel must first be published among all nations [ethnos].

Fulfillment:
Romans 16:25-26 – Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, 26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations [ethnos] for the obedience of faith:

Prophecy:
Acts 1:8 – But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth [ge].

Fulfillment:
Romans 10:15-18 – And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth [ge], and their words unto the ends of the world.

Prophecy:
Isaiah 52:14-15 – As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

Fulfillment:
Romans 15:19-21 – Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. 20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man’s foundation: 21 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand.

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by look2jesus » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:52 pm

Dear Mellontes,
You wrote:After the Gospel was spread into all the "world", the end of the "world" would come, and come it did. (Emphasis mine)
Would you please expound on the underlined portion of your quote. I don't see "the end of the world" mentioned in the verses you quoted. Thanks.

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by Mellontes » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:06 pm

look2jesus wrote:Dear Mellontes,
You wrote:After the Gospel was spread into all the "world", the end of the "world" would come, and come it did. (Emphasis mine)
Would you please expound on the underlined portion of your quote. I don't see "the end of the world" mentioned in the verses you quoted. Thanks.

l2j
It was directly quoted in the first prophecy/fulfillment in answer to the disciples question of "Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"...unless you believe the "end" there refers to another "end" spoken of in the Scriptures. I also undertand that futurism insists that Jesus did not initally answer the disciple's question in Matthew 24 which means that the "end" specified in Matthew 24:14 must refer to another one than that of the disciples' original question.

Unfortunately, many today have accepted the "world" as referring to the planet when "world" is given that translation from the Greek aion (Strong's 165), oikumene (Strong's 3625), and kosmos (Strong's 2889).

When Christ mentioned that none of the stones of the temple would be left, how did the disciples know to associate that with the end of the "age" and the coming judgment? Jesus did not mention anything about planetary destruction. Perhaps it was because they were familiar with other days of the Lord from the OT - their Scriptural source at that present time. The Mosaic age had been in existence for approximately 1600 years when Jesus proclaimed those fateful words. It would be the end of their world. Daniel mentioned this end as well in Daniel 8:17, Daniel 11:35, Daniel 11:40, Daniel 12:4, and Daniel 12:9. Unfortunately, it also has received the connotation of planetary destruction.

The end of the world was the end of Judaism and that particular temple worship system. We are the temples now and equate to Ezekiel's vision from chapters 40 and on... Christ was the final sacrifice for our present temple system.

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by steve7150 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:06 pm

Matthew 24:14 – And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world [oikumene] for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Fulfillment:
Romans 10:15-18 – And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world [oikumene].





So by 60AD people in Japan and indians in South America heard the gospel? What's the greek word for "hyperbole"?

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by Mellontes » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:36 pm

steve7150 wrote:Matthew 24:14 – And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world [oikumene] for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Fulfillment:
Romans 10:15-18 – And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. 18 But I say, Have they not heard? Yes verily, their sound went into all the earth, and their words unto the ends of the world [oikumene].


So by 60AD people in Japan and indians in South America heard the gospel? What's the greek word for "hyperbole"?
Your conclusion seems to be quite a leap...Do you also believe Japan and South America were to be taxed in Luke 2:1?

Luke 2:1 - And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world [oikumene] should be taxed.

When you lose touch of which "world" applies to what jumping to irrational conclusions is generally the result.

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by steve7150 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:58 pm

When you lose touch of which "world" applies to what jumping to irrational conclusions is generally the result.
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Which world? Jesus said, for a witness to all the nations. "The nations" means the gentiles which includes Japanese and South American indians. I suppose disagreeing with you seems irrational to you if you have an airtight system.

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by Mellontes » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:41 am

steve7150 wrote:Which world? Jesus said, for a witness to all the nations. "The nations" means the gentiles which includes Japanese and South American indians. I suppose disagreeing with you seems irrational to you if you have an airtight system.
Steve,

It has very little to do with whether you agree or even disagree with me. It has to do with what Scripture teaches. The inspired apostle Paul is VERY CLEAR that the Gospel mission had been fulfilled within his generation.

It would seem that you may have forgotten who Jesus' main concern was. Was it not to the house of Israel? Was it not to the Jew first? Was it not to be published first to the Jews as Mark 13:10 (Jesus' own words) would suggest?

And you are quite correct that the reason/purpose that the Gospel would be preached to all the world was so that it would serve as a witness to all nations.

Matthew 24:14 - And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world [oikumene] for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

We have already established what oikumene meant. It was the known world of the Roman Empire - the same world that Caesar had taxed. Paul went through that "world" preaching the Gospel. If the whole world encompassed, as you say, Japan and South America, then the apostle Paul clearly lied, didn't he? Are you willing to accept that?

The apostle Paul said that the Gospel had been preached to every creature [ktisis] in Colossians 1:23. Do you believe him?
Do you believe the apostle Paul concerning the other fulfillments of the Gospel being preached?

BTW, you never answered my question of "Do you also believe Japan and South America were to be taxed in Luke 2:1?"

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by steve7150 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:07 pm

And you are quite correct that the reason/purpose that the Gospel would be preached to all the world was so that it would serve as a witness to all nations.

Matthew 24:14 - And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world [oikumene] for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

We have already established what oikumene meant. It was the known world of the Roman Empire - the same world that Caesar had taxed. Paul went through that "world" preaching the Gospel. If the whole world encompassed, as you say, Japan and South America, then the apostle Paul clearly lied, didn't he? Are you willing to accept that?

The apostle Paul said that the Gospel had been preached to every creature [ktisis] in Colossians 1:23. Do you believe him?
Do you believe the apostle Paul concerning the other fulfillments of the Gospel being preached?

BTW, you never answered my question of "Do you also believe Japan and South America were to be taxed in Luke 2:1?"
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When you say "We have established" , who is "we"? If you mean preterists then say so. I see no reason why Caeser's definition of the world is the same as God's definition of the world. Paul did'nt lie regarding his usage of the "world" as he obviously used hyperbole as Jesus often did.

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by Mellontes » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:18 pm

steve7150 wrote:When you say "We have established" , who is "we"? If you mean preterists then say so. I see no reason why Caeser's definition of the world is the same as God's definition of the world. Paul did'nt lie regarding his usage of the "world" as he obviously used hyperbole as Jesus often did.
When I said "we," I was speaking form a "book writing" perspective. I should have said "I." But now thinking about it a little bit more ,perhaps "we" is correct if you consider 1) Scripture and 2) me as the one presenting the Scriptures.

And what is God's definition of "world"? I would definitely be interested in how you think God defined it and the verses you would use to support your denotation. I would also like to know how and where Paul used hyperbole. I would like to to know how and where Jesus used hyperbole. I would like for you to show me the examples from Scriptures.

Just saying it doesn't make it so, right? Why are your posts so devoid of Scripture?

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Re: The Gospel Preached to ALL the World before the End.

Post by steve7150 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:27 pm

When I said "we," I was speaking form a "book writing" perspective. I should have said "I." But now thinking about it a little bit more ,perhaps "we" is correct if you consider 1) Scripture and 2) me as the one presenting the Scriptures.

And what is God's definition of "world"? I would definitely be interested in how you think God defined it and the verses you would use to support your denotation. I would also like to know how and where Paul used hyperbole. I would like to to know how and where Jesus used hyperbole. I would like for you to show me the examples from Scriptures.

Just saying it doesn't make it so, right? Why are your posts so devoid of Scripture?
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So "we" means you and scripture, as if scripture only speaks to you and no one else. If that were an accurate statement then everyone would be a preterist but what % of Christians are preterists?
What is God's definition of the world?

"He will judge the world" Psalm 9.8
"For the world is mine and all that is in it" Ps 50.12
"He will judge the world" Ps 96.13
" I will punish the world for it's evil" Isa 13.11
"The whole world will be consumed" Zep 1.18
"Who takes away the sin of the world" John 1.29
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son , that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" John 3.16

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