Sabbath Observance: 3 Views

Post by **__id_2533** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:11 pm

Allyn asked:

I am to apologize to Paidion because you were offended? Do I have that right?

If it helps you to obey Allyn, maybe you could just picture me as your father or mother, who told you to apologize to one of your "friends" when you mistreated him, even though your "friend" may not have voiced his objection to your insult.

Or, you could think of me as interceding on your behalf, and on the behalf of Paidion too. I truly do desire you to be reconciled to him, and to God. When you insult Paidion, you also have insulted his Creator.

Hope this helps!

peace,, dmatic

Post by **_STEVE7150** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:55 pm

I truly do desire you to be reconciled to him, and to God. When you insult Paidion, you also have insulted his Creator.

dmatic, Maybe based on the law you follow, Allyn can grab an alter and a tent and slay a bullock on his front lawn , if only he could find a Levite priest. You know any?

Post by **_Michelle** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:55 pm

dmatic, you're starting to get a little creepy.

Post by **_Allyn** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:09 pm

The problem is, dmatic, I did not insult Paidion. In fact I highly respect him. Our little messages back and forth are our way of getting a point across sometimes. It means nothing but that and yet you (not knowing this)still decided to interject yourself.

If I offended Paidion, I will gladly apologize. However he has not indicated to me that he was offended and since I intended no offense I would suspect that he did not take it with offense either.

You seem preoccupied in making people into your image. You judge us by your standards and insist we are faulty in some way if we do not follow your judaizing bondage.

As I review this long thread I must conclude that your immaturity has become a stumbling block for you. Men and women here with far more wisdom than I see in you have again and again tried to show you the error in your thinking except you have not yet seen the light of God's grace through Christ. I can't help but think that maybe you have had some very bad experiences with Christianity in the past and you have gone to the other extreme.

I have seen you in other places on the net with you trying to convert to your way anyone who would listen. It won't work here nor on my board where you pulled this same stuff. I agree with Michelle, you are creeping me out.

Just an observation and one I will pray for you about.

Post by **__id_2533** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:32 pm

STEVE7150 wrote:I truly do desire you to be reconciled to him, and to God. When you insult Paidion, you also have insulted his Creator.

dmatic, Maybe based on the law you follow, Allyn can grab an alter and a tent and slay a bullock on his front lawn , if only he could find a Levite priest. You know any?

STEVE7150, Based on the Law I follow, when Allyn insults one of God's creatures, he has also insulted Him!

All I'm asking Allyn to do is to apologize to one of God's children for his insult. But, I can see that he may not even realize his sin. If he is reprobate, I'll have to approach the situation differently.

Rebuking scorners does indeed, get hatred ot oneself, just as the scripture teaches, but if you have any contructive ideas in how to do so, STEVE, I'd gladly listen.

thanks, dmatic

Post by **__id_2533** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:35 pm

MichelleM wrote:dmatic, you're starting to get a little creepy.

Creepy? Interesting. In what way? Based on my attempt to follow God's dietary instructions, or because I think it wrong to insult children of God?

May God still bless you Michele!

Peace, dmatic

Post by **_STEVE7150** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:51 pm

Rebuking scorners does indeed, get hatred ot oneself, just as the scripture teaches, but if you have any contructive ideas in how to do so, STEVE, I'd gladly listen.

My constructive idea dmatic would be to let Paidion speak for himself unless he appointed you to speak for him. Did i miss that?

Post by **__id_2533** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:53 pm

Allyn wrote:The problem is, dmatic, I did not insult Paidion. In fact I highly respect him. Our little messages back and forth are our way of getting a point across sometimes. It means nothing but that and yet you (not knowing this)still decided to interject yourself.

If I offended Paidion, I will gladly apologize. However he has not indicated to me that he was offended and since I intended no offense I would suspect that he did not take it with offense either...

Well, if you didn't insult Paidion, nor meant to, I guess there's no problem

But when you implied that he was the dumbest smart person you've ever met....and lacked common sense, even though he was intellectual... and the next comment... where he even asked you if you were displaying humble submissiveness, (after preaching it) didn't mean anything, I guess I'm wrong about you.

Maybe you are just a lovable, loving, holy spirit led, good fruit producing, follower of Jesus Christ. But then, maybe you're just another wolf in sheep's clothing, that needs exposing. I will pray about further dialog with you.

Regarding paidion, hopefully, he didn't take offense, nor was hurt by your unkind comments that didn't mean anything. He would be following our Lord's advice not to think it strange when men say all manner of evil against him falsely, nor would he fret because of evildoers! He's probably rejoicing, as I am in his victory!

To prayer.

God bless, dmatic

Post by **_Allyn** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:10 pm

dmatic wrote:
Allyn wrote:The problem is, dmatic, I did not insult Paidion. In fact I highly respect him. Our little messages back and forth are our way of getting a point across sometimes. It means nothing but that and yet you (not knowing this)still decided to interject yourself.

If I offended Paidion, I will gladly apologize. However he has not indicated to me that he was offended and since I intended no offense I would suspect that he did not take it with offense either...
Well, if you didn't insult Paidion, nor meant to, I guess there's no problem But when you implied that he was the dumbest smart person you've ever met....and lacked common sense, even though he was intellectual... and the next comment... where he even asked you if you were displaying humble submissiveness, (after preaching it) didn't mean anything, I guess I'm wrong about you.

Maybe you are just a lovable, loving, holy spirit led, good fruit producing, follower of Jesus Christ. But then, maybe you're just another wolf in sheep's clothing, that needs exposing. I will pray about further dialog with you.

Regarding paidion, hopefully, he didn't take offense, nor was hurt by your unkind comments that didn't mean anything. He would be following our Lord's advice not to think it strange when men say all manner of evil against him falsely, nor would he fret because of evildoers! He's probably rejoicing, as I am in his victory!

To prayer.

God bless, dmatic

Looking back at my comments to Paidion I see they went a different way then I remembered them and I see it is possible I did offend Paidion. I apologize to Paidion for that.

I do not desire any further communication with you dmatic. Its best we cut it off here and now.

Post by **_Michelle** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:44 pm

dmatic wrote:
MichelleM wrote:dmatic, you're starting to get a little creepy.
Creepy? Interesting. In what way? Based on my attempt to follow God's dietary instructions, or because I think it wrong to insult children of God?

Neither. It's the way you talk to people.

May God still bless you Michele!

Peace, dmatic

Thanks. He does, all the time.