OT animal sacrifices
Re: OT animal sacrifices
I too believe it is your 2nd option. I think Jewish Christians continued the practice for the same reason Peter associated only with the circumcised. They still had a deep connection for their Jewish roots and most likely didn't have a full comprehension of Jesus' sacrifice.
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Luke 16:17 - It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.
The following statement may cast some light on the issue:
Acts 17:30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.
The Hebrews got their system of propitiatory (appeasing) sacrifices, not from God, but from the nations around them.
God, as a concession, had told the Hebrews to choose Saul as a king.God didn't agree with it but they insisted on having a king to rule over them like the other nations. Then God said, "You wouldn't have me to rule over you," and He made it clear that having a king would give them trouble. In like manner, God as a concession, allowed the Hebrews to offer appeasing sacrifices, although "sacrifices and sin offering" He "did not desire, but an open ear" He had given. So in going along with the wishes of the Hebrews, He overlooked their sins, considering their lack of understanding. But now when the purpose of our Lord Jesus' supreme sacrifice is known, that is, to enable us to overcome wrongdoing, and to work righteousness, He commands all people everywhere to repent.
Acts 17:30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent.
The Hebrews got their system of propitiatory (appeasing) sacrifices, not from God, but from the nations around them.
God, as a concession, had told the Hebrews to choose Saul as a king.God didn't agree with it but they insisted on having a king to rule over them like the other nations. Then God said, "You wouldn't have me to rule over you," and He made it clear that having a king would give them trouble. In like manner, God as a concession, allowed the Hebrews to offer appeasing sacrifices, although "sacrifices and sin offering" He "did not desire, but an open ear" He had given. So in going along with the wishes of the Hebrews, He overlooked their sins, considering their lack of understanding. But now when the purpose of our Lord Jesus' supreme sacrifice is known, that is, to enable us to overcome wrongdoing, and to work righteousness, He commands all people everywhere to repent.
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Paidion
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"Not one soul will ever be redeemed from hell but by being saved from his sins, from the evil in him." --- George MacDonald
I believe people all through history have been saved in the same manner... by faith in God. As Paidion pointed out, God has slowly been revealing himself since the beginning of time and was fully revealed in Christ. The book of Hebrews tells us Abraham was justified because he believed God and acted on it. Yet, God had not fully revealed his purposes to Abraham.
The sacrificial system was given to the Hebrews to point forward to the role of the Messiah. They didn't know this at the time, of course, but they believed God and trusted him anyway. We now know, through Christ, what God's purpose has been since the beginning of the world so we are called to believe him. The ancients were given less light/knowledge, but there was still a need to trust God in what little he told them.
The sacrificial system was given to the Hebrews to point forward to the role of the Messiah. They didn't know this at the time, of course, but they believed God and trusted him anyway. We now know, through Christ, what God's purpose has been since the beginning of the world so we are called to believe him. The ancients were given less light/knowledge, but there was still a need to trust God in what little he told them.
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Paidion,
I was just wondering about the above statement you made in regards to the first sacrifices mentioned in scripture? I've always heard it said that God Himself made the first sacrifice of blood when He clothed Adam and Eve, and the next sacrifice we hear of is with Cain and Abel with God having accepted Abel's sacrifice as pleasing.
So, I guess I'm a bit confused and hope you can help me out here. How does the sacrificial system go from Abel's sacrifice being pleasing to God, to being a "concession" to the Hebrew nation? What am I missing? Did I miss something you may have already said in your post or is there something more to this? Or possibly, am I comparing apples to oranges here?
(Gen 3:21)"And the Lord God made for Adam and his wife garments of skin, and clothed them."
(Gen 4:3-5) "And it was so after some time that Cain brought of the fruits of the earth a sacrifice to the Lord. And Abel also brought of the firstborn of his sheep and of his fatlings and God looked upon Abel and his gifts,
but Cain and his sacrifices he regarded not, and Cain was exceedingly sorrowful and his countenance fell."
Hi, nice to "meet" you.The Hebrews got their system of propitiatory (appeasing) sacrifices, not from God, but from the nations around them.
I was just wondering about the above statement you made in regards to the first sacrifices mentioned in scripture? I've always heard it said that God Himself made the first sacrifice of blood when He clothed Adam and Eve, and the next sacrifice we hear of is with Cain and Abel with God having accepted Abel's sacrifice as pleasing.
So, I guess I'm a bit confused and hope you can help me out here. How does the sacrificial system go from Abel's sacrifice being pleasing to God, to being a "concession" to the Hebrew nation? What am I missing? Did I miss something you may have already said in your post or is there something more to this? Or possibly, am I comparing apples to oranges here?
(Gen 3:21)"And the Lord God made for Adam and his wife garments of skin, and clothed them."
(Gen 4:3-5) "And it was so after some time that Cain brought of the fruits of the earth a sacrifice to the Lord. And Abel also brought of the firstborn of his sheep and of his fatlings and God looked upon Abel and his gifts,
but Cain and his sacrifices he regarded not, and Cain was exceedingly sorrowful and his countenance fell."
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Hi Nana. Good to meet you, too!
Yes, I am convinced that this is the case. I know that some preachers say that "God made the first sacrifice when He killed an animal and made skins for Adam and Eve." First of all, it is not written that God killed an animal. People assume that the skins God provided had to have come from an animal that once once alive. Why so? Could not He who created the Universe have created some skins to clothe them?
More importantly, even if God had killed an animal to provide the skins, it was hardly an appeasing sacrifice. If so, who was God appeasing? Surely there was none higher than Himself to appease! Or was He appeasing Adam and Eve? I don' think so.
You may be interested in reading Chapter 3 of a booklet Supreme Sacrifice on which I have been working.
You can find it on this forum at the following link:
http://www.wvss.com/forumc/viewtopic.php?p=6032#6032[/url]
The Hebrews got their system of propitiatory (appeasing) sacrifices, not from God, but from the nations around them.
Yes, I am convinced that this is the case. I know that some preachers say that "God made the first sacrifice when He killed an animal and made skins for Adam and Eve." First of all, it is not written that God killed an animal. People assume that the skins God provided had to have come from an animal that once once alive. Why so? Could not He who created the Universe have created some skins to clothe them?
More importantly, even if God had killed an animal to provide the skins, it was hardly an appeasing sacrifice. If so, who was God appeasing? Surely there was none higher than Himself to appease! Or was He appeasing Adam and Eve? I don' think so.
You may be interested in reading Chapter 3 of a booklet Supreme Sacrifice on which I have been working.
You can find it on this forum at the following link:
http://www.wvss.com/forumc/viewtopic.php?p=6032#6032[/url]
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Paidion
Avatar --- Age 45
"Not one soul will ever be redeemed from hell but by being saved from his sins, from the evil in him." --- George MacDonald
Avatar --- Age 45
"Not one soul will ever be redeemed from hell but by being saved from his sins, from the evil in him." --- George MacDonald
Paidion,
Thanks for the link. I wonder how I missed it...wow! I bet schoel appreciates it too since I think I kinda threadjacked his post.....sorry schoel.
Thanks again Paidion.
Thanks for the link. I wonder how I missed it...wow! I bet schoel appreciates it too since I think I kinda threadjacked his post.....sorry schoel.
Thanks again Paidion.
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