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Dr. White reviews Mr. Gregg's treatment of Acts 13:48

Post by __id_1437 » Tue May 01, 2007 3:35 pm

Dr. White has posted another response to Mr. Gregg's reviews of Calvinism.

http://aomin.org/index.php?itemid=1956&catid=12

The time is mostly spent exegeting this passage:
NAS Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.

An eye opening program to be sure. :)
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Post by _Super Sola Scriptura » Wed May 02, 2007 3:57 am

Steve, I feel sorry for you. Clearly, you are a man of Christian character and integrity, who believes the best until he has evidence not to. You would not mock. James White, on the other hand, most assuredly spent the next five minutes of his show purposely mocking you in spitefulness. How childish and immature, but that's the kind of man he is. If you expect him to be like you, forget it. He is a partisan hack for Calvinism, that is all, and these debates he tries to lure people into are part of his travelling circus he calls a "ministry".

He is not above lying, but engages in that sin often, because he cannot admit he is wrong about anything, ever. Of course he will say, over and over, that the opponents of Calvinism don't understand it, or misrepresent it. He says that every time someone shows the absurdity or blasphemy of his doctrine, or makes a point against it. The cry of misrepresentation or not understanding will continually come, like the endless dripping of a faucett. His goal is to win debates, not honor the Word of God. He doesn't care what he has to say to do it, you'll see. It is amazing how many times he has misrepresented his opponents, slandered them and mocked them. His treatment of Geisler and Hunt was outrageous.

Obviously I have no respect for him or what he does, not because he is a Calvinist, but because of all the things he has said and done over the years. I have read from him, listened to his debates, etc, and what I see is one very arrogant man, who is in the flesh, and in whom no life from the Spirit of God flows.

If James wants to debate no holds barred, he can come right here. We can start with his "born again before faith" heresy he holds to.
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Post by _tartanarmy » Wed May 02, 2007 4:33 am

Super Sola Scriptura,

Man, what an utter misrepresentation of James White.
You ought to be completely ashamed of yourself for the way you have spoken of James.

Is there no limit to the lengths some professing Christians will stoop?

Folks, I urge you. Let this debate happen, before the well gets poisoned by the kinds of misguided comments like the one above.

It truly saddens me that the truth of God's Word, and ironically, "Sola Scriptura" gets trampled under the feet of men with their traditions.

Mark

Note to Steve Gregg,

Brother, you have no fear of any Calvinist treating you in the manor James has been misrepresented here. I have never read such vitriol from any person, of any religious position, attack James White in such a manor.
I do not know who the poster above is, but I hope such a person is not indicative of the kind of professing Christian that would give you any kind of encouragement in any way, shape or form.
I just know that you are above any of that, and so too is your brother Dr White.
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Post by _Super Sola Scriptura » Wed May 02, 2007 4:42 am

You can pretend to be offended. You can pretend to have "never' heard such "vitriol" in your life(you must never leave your house), you can pretend James White has not mocked, slandered and misrepresented godly men like Dave Hunt, Norman Geisler, Dan Corner, J.P. Holding, and many others, but it doesn't change anything. What I posted is very true, and very Christian. What is sad is James White's behavior. Dan Corner said James White is a liar. Dave Hunt said White misrepresented him. Theodore Letis said White was a partisan hack and his idea of "scholarly debate" was in reality a travelling circus. Geisler said White 's attack of him and his book was a total misrepresentation of his work. Be sure your sin will find you out.

You see, you are not on your chatroom, where you can boot those who you can't defeat in debate. Here, your tactics, as well as your doctrine will be exposed, and you cannot silence us. You've come to the wrong forum my friend.
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Post by _tartanarmy » Wed May 02, 2007 6:26 am

2Ti 3:3-9 without natural affection, implacable, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, no lovers of good, traitors, headstrong, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God;

holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof: from these also turn away.

For of these are they that creep into houses, and take captive silly women laden with sins, led away by divers lusts,

ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

And even as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also withstand the truth.

Men corrupted in mind, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further. For their folly shall be evident unto all men, as theirs also came to be.
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Post by _tartanarmy » Wed May 02, 2007 6:28 am

I don't do chatrooms, and I don't boot those who disagree with me.
You must have me confused with someone else.

Happy to have my doctrine exposed!

Mark
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Post by _Super Sola Scriptura » Wed May 02, 2007 9:08 am

You've never been on prosapologian? apologetics? What I told is the tactics there of the moderators, who when they see themselves or other members losing a debated point, begin to falsely accuse the Arminian of "tone" and other things, and then boot them and pretend the reason was the "harsh" tone of the Arminian, when the truth is that the big bold debate chatrooms for Reformed doctrine were being successfully challenged, and so to save face, boot the Arminians. You're not aware of this? Well you are now.
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Post by __id_1437 » Wed May 02, 2007 10:36 am

Super Sola Scriptura wrote: If James wants to debate no holds barred, he can come right here.
Perhaps Brody or some of the other regulars here could enlighten our friend here about who is persuing this debate. Remember folks, you contacted us, not the other way around.

On another note, are there no standards here for what someone can say? Clearly this man's open hostility is evidence enough of why he is not welcome in our chat, is it not?

God Bless,

Rich
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Post by _Super Sola Scriptura » Wed May 02, 2007 11:01 am

I was not "hostile" on your chat, I was effective. The mods are quite hostile actually. As was James White when I asked, over and over, where non-elect infants that die go? He didn't like my "tone" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by __id_1437 » Wed May 02, 2007 11:13 am

Super Sola Scriptura wrote:I was not "hostile" on your chat, I was effective.
I am sure that you were, umm, very effective. I am an op there and it wouldn't matter to me what perspective you held nor how effective you were. It wouldn't matter if you were a staunch calvinist with every jot and tittle in line with mine. The anger, rage and malice that you have displayed here would have gotten you booted plain and simple. Neither side needs someone so guided by deeds of the flesh. You only serve to bring rancor in and make everyone defensive and angry.

Rich
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