The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

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Re: The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

Post by FreeIndeed » Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:13 pm

Matthew 16:2 He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
3 And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

RV this is as close as I'll come to setting dates. You know we can't do that. I do see the White Horse British Empire, Red Horse Russia Black horse Nazi Germany, Pale Horse UN scenario pretty clearly. It is show time for sure. How it plays out I don't know. I see them pulling the trigger on WW3 in 1 to 2 years. The colusion between the 2 Beasts is a key. Salem Comunication controlling Christian Media with thier pure AntiChrist Zionist Agenda is huge. There's a link to CUFI on just about every page on thier websites. They are right at the head of the False Prophet causing the World to wonder after the beast whos mortal wound was healed in 1948. This is for sure the case. This is the kind of thing I watch.
http://whtt.org/index.php?news=2&id=3438 This Elite Cult with a Christian front is very significant.
I see this summer being the last normal summer. They started taking the economy down in the 60's when Nixon took us off the Gold Standard in 71 that was the lighting of the fuse. The economy crashed ahead of schedule Sept 08. It's all just artificially propped up for the last dotting of the I's and crossing of the Ts. The Luciferian globalists are planning on controling the world from Israel. They are following Kabala and the New Age Occult. They use the term Dawning of a New Day. That is 2012. Ordo Ab Chao which means From Chaos, Order is thier motto. They call America the Phoenix. you know the New one rising out of the ashes of the one that burns up when it comes of age. They are planning on destroying America. It's going to be Gods judgement. How much more filth from our entertainment industry will God allow to polute the minds of the entire world that watches it.
Now as I say all this don't ever forget this is all part of our sovergn Lords plan. These Globalists are Vessels of Wrath. This is Gods written plan. Long story short this is describing the Beast system acurately. The more you study it and their documents there is no possible way this isn't the Beast System. As we see the support from the Luke Warm Church, The False Prophet increase as it is getting more and more power from the dragon manifesting itself in the Christian Right Secret Societies like the CNP and The "Family", it's going to be pretty clear.
Now as far as the Sealing of the Remnant I have to say there is no way I'll be able to do anything productive in a study myself that isn't covered in the Third Days study. It is so rich and deep that I can't do it justice myself. I just have to point you to thier 3 part audio study. I made a special page for it on my site. http://www.thirdgreatawakening.org/thetransition.htm
It is the precurser to the Trumpet Judgements. How long God will allow this House of Merchandise, Christian Industrial Complex, to continue is still speculation but man I can't imagine it holding out much longer. The apostasy is causing the luke warm to be oblivious to the fact they are wondering after the Beast. Both will increase. It is written.
God Bless you buddy
Thanks for the questions.
Chris
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Re: The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

Post by steve » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:11 am

Chris,

In your initial posts, you spoke of receiving revelations from God about what is going on today in the world. As the thread developed, you made it clear that your vision was not exactly a direct revelation, but actually was inspired by hearing certain alarming conspiracy presentations on the Internet.

Back in 1978, I heard all of this New World Order/Illuminati/Antichrist stuff that you are talking about, from recordings by a guy named John Todd, who claimed to be a high-ranking defector from the Illuminati. Though I was not aware of it at the time, everything he said could have been gleaned from the 1971 book, "None Dare Call It Conspiracy."

Because I was still a futurist at that time, I became very alarmed. I bought a backpack, a sleeping bag, and other stuff in order to be prepared, if necessary, to survive in the woods when the whole Antichrist thing would come together. Since that was over 30 years ago, I have moderated my concerns—and completely changed my focus. Here are my present thoughts about such things:

1. It does seem that Western Civilization is following a trajectory that agrees with the conspiratorial agenda mentioned in much of this literature;

2. Whether this is coincidental or is being guided by a powerful conspiracy of international bankers is not entirely clear;

3. If it is indeed a conspiracy (as it might very well be), then it might or might not prove successful, depending upon the sovereign will of God in the matter. Either way, I am willing to accept the will of God in the matter;

4. I find no portion of prophetic scripture that describes any such developments in the last days, though this does not mean that they cannot materialize anyway (in the last days or otherwise). If they are indeed prophesied, then there is clearly nothing that any of us can do to prevent it, and we needn't worry about it;

5. Since, like most Christians, I do not wield the kind of political power that would be necessary to overturn a ruling cartel of international bankers, who allegedly own the leaders of every industrialized nation, there seems to be little or nothing that I can do to retard the progress of such developments—which makes me think that there is nothing that God expects me to do about them. Either they will succeed in the will of God, or else they will be thwarted in the will of God;

6. If there is nothing I can do to stop the course of history, I can at least busy myself with getting myself and other people into such a state as to be pleasing to God, regardless of what may lie in the world's near or distant future. It is unlikely that any future tyrant will be able to do anything worse to modern Christians than what Nero, the Inquisitions, or Communist regimes have done to Christians in the past—so cheer up! (John 16:33)

7. Since God may have some special time-sensitive instructions for His people in such times as these that would be unlike His general instructions for us at other seasons, I should concern myself with being continually in touch with Him, and ready to obey Him at a moment's notice;

8. Until He issues clear instructions to the contrary, I am committed to continuing to serve Him in the same manner as I would at any other time in history—i.e., by being a faithful disciple and encouraging others to do the same;

9. I have found that focusing on imagined scenarios of future tribulation can serve as a distraction that the devil uses, either to frighten Christians who are not prepared to die for Jesus, but cannot think of any practical way to avoid whatever is coming down the pike, or else to get Christians obsessively concerned about making provisions for their own safety, rather than about seeking the fortunes of the kingdom of God. Such a distraction will do more to neutralize the effectiveness of true Christians than will the adoption of the "dialectic" method of problem resolution or of rock music in the churches;

10. Since "A prudent man foresees evil and hides himself" (Prov.22:3/ 27:12), there may be reason to make rational provision for foreseeable disasters. However, there is a limit to the preparations to which our resources can, or should, be devoted. We must do all that God leads and allows us to do within reason, but thereafter entrust the future to God: "You just keep doin' your best; and pray that its blest; and He'll take care of the rest."

11. Once we come to terms with the conditions of discipleship (viz., that anyone who seeks to save his life will lose it, but whoever will lose his life for Christ's sake will find it), then all talk of FEMA concentration camps, and such like, loses its power to fascinate and distract.

12. To allow such real or imagined dangers to put us in fear is to succumb to the temptation to sin against direct commands of God in scripture, such as:

"Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’ concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled. The LORD of hosts, Him you shall hallow; let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread. He will be as a sanctuary..." (Isaiah 8:11-15)

"And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you are blessed. “And do not be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.” But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear; having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed. For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil." (1 Peter 3:13-17)

"The fear of man brings a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD shall be safe." (Proverbs 29:25)

"I, even I, am He who comforts you. Who are you that you should be afraid Of a man who will die, And of the son of a man who will be made like grass? And you forget the LORD your Maker, Who stretched out the heavens And laid the foundations of the earth; You have feared continually every day Because of the fury of the oppressor, When he has prepared to destroy. And where is the fury of the oppressor? (Isaiah 51:12-13)

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Re: The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

Post by FreeIndeed » Sun Feb 21, 2010 6:13 pm

Steve
I appreciate the John Todd conspiracy frenzy stuff. I admit I went through my head to the mountains with my backpack stage but the Lord has sure given me peace in that area now. I'm not going anywhere. A lot of the stuff John Todd spoke of, the occult ties to the music industry and all were real.
The fact is there is a conspiracy. The Masons are very real, they're everywhere, they control all the significant governments on the world and they worship Lucifer. They also have at the top of thier agenda the plan to destroy Christianity. I lump John Todd in the same catagory as Hal Lindsey. I think both were intentional diversions.
The key to what I see and understanding the Revelation I had is the Spiritual Overlay of Scripture. Israel was translated from Physical to Spiritual at the Cross. The true Physical manifestations of bible prophecies that happened to Gods people, The Physical Race of Jews, Israel, is now about to happen to Gods people, Abrahams Seed by Faith, Spiritual Israel.

1 Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.

One of my sayings is, your refusal to investigate does not a conspiracy make.

What I see happening now is the Masons are counterfieting every bible prophecy. With the groundwork laid from the Scofield Bible getting Jewish Dispensationalism thought implanted into every Christian on the face of the earth, they have the mass brainwashing required in place to put this thing over the top. Now I know you guys here are awake the error of Dispensationalism. That's why I'm lead to dialog with you here because that is a huge hurdle to get past in sharing this volitile information.
The Masons are going to create all the bible prophecys with thier twist of course. While they are staged to take place in what seems the not to distant future, it is again a diversion taking Christians attention off the real prophecies that are all well underway right now. It's the ultimate shell game. only it's not a game. Most will be decieved and end up in Hell.
Chris
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Re: The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

Post by FreeIndeed » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:00 pm

What we’re seeing is an attempt by the Masons to counterfeit bible prophecy. With Tim LaHaye and Hal Lindseys help the Apostate Christians today have no capacity whatsoever to dicern the error in the fraudulent teaching going on by the Wolves in sheeps clothing. Most are trusting in the Rapture and because of that feel they really don't need to understand prophecy. The ones who are at least aware of the error in the pre trib rapture seem to embrace Dominionism. I guess these are 2 of the "Views" you guys present. One of my other terms I seem to be saying a lot late is Views, Schmiews. What I'm saying isn't a "View" it's what is going on. It's the truth, I can't present it any other way.

For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 2 Timothy 4:3,4

We are seeing today the results of years of brainwashing by the Masons resulting an entirely scewed view of prophecy but thoroughly embraced by the Christian establishment . These distortions are so deeply deceptive that they would deceive the very elect if it were possible.

Counterfeit Physical:

The Great Tribulation will be World War 3,

Genuine Spiritual

The Great Tribulation will be the Judgement of the Church.

Zechariah 13: 8, 9
And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; (The Serpents and Scorpions) but the third shall be left therein. (The Multitude) And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God

Counterfeit Physical:

The Gog Magog War will be Russia against Israel

Genuine Spiritual

Gog Magog war will be the Serpents ansd Scorpions executing the Multitudes because they stand against Zionism. With the Noahide laws charged with idolatry for believing in the Trinity punishable by Beheading. The Masonic New World Order is a plan to rule the World from Jeruasalem, The Jewish Master Race ruling over the Goyim.

Physical Counterfeit

Masons obsessed with rebuilding Solomons temple will happen. All a counterfeit, having nothing to do with Gods plan of redemption but today main stream Chritianity is supporting this. Any doubt see http://www.thirdgreatawakening.org/TheBeast.htm


Genuine Spiritual

1 Corinthians 3:16 “Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
1 Peter 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
Luke 21:6
As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Physical Counterfeit


The Anticrist (whoever that fabled character is) will enter the Temple and desecrate it.

Genuine Spiritual

2 Thes 2:3,4
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

The Great Apostasy and the Abomination of Desolation are both described in 2 consecutive verses of Scripture. This is because they are describing the same event. The Abomination of Desolation is the Judgement of the church. This is a description of what is about to happen to the Temple (the apostate church)

The real focus here is the Collusion between the Beast, (Freemasonic Zionist New World Order) and the False Prophet,(The Christian Industrial Complex). http://www.thirdgreatawakening.org/BeastWatch.htm Christian Zionism is gaining it's strength from the Dragon so quickly now it must be the focus of any Christian in leadership. Not warning thier flock against "Wondering after the Beast" will have grave consequenses. There's no possible way this isn't the Rev 13 Beast and False prophet. Whatever "view" that contradicts this, that would be used to explain this away would be so far fetched it would be impossible to belive after spending time understanding the New World Order which is in our face today on planet earth. The New World Order is exposed and documented so completely it is impossible to deny, impossible to explain away after thorough examination.
Chris
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Re: The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

Post by RV » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:22 am

Hi Chris...
Chris wrote:It is show time for sure. How it plays out I don't know.
1. If you don't know how it's all going to play out, how will you know it's actually show time? Couldn't you just perpetually speculate?

2. That leads me to my second question, which you may have missed the first time, or maybe I missed your response.

Question: Is there a point where you would begin take a second look at this? Meaning, if something didn't come to pass, is there a point where you may think this view has missed it. Now, I know that question will be difficult for you to answer, since you really aren't sure how this will all play out.

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Re: The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

Post by Jepne » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:12 am

It is wonderful to have a forum such as this on which to put our thoughts and beliefs before the brethren for feedback and their valuable discernment.

Would that we were preoccupied with thoughts of Stephen whose face reflected the glory of God and others whose very presence caused people to repent because of the sure foundation on which their lives were built, rather than such distractions as those that ". . do more to neutralize the effectiveness of true Christians than will the adoption of the "dialectic" method of problem resolution or of rock music in the churches;. . ."

Someone gave me a DVD about a conspiracy theory that was so convincing and frightening that the very power of the thing to keep me preoccupied was a sign that, even if the conspiracy was real, it would be wrong to give time to it, but rather, “supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men.”

Maybe Masons do rule the world, and if so, so what? Maybe they don't. If one possesses a great knowledge that no one else knows or understands, so what? Just put it out there for what it's worth, knowing that in time, it will be proven true or not. No one has to follow you, or me.

Everything, our dearest loves and visions and dreams, must be offered up to the Lord and allowed to die. Then, after we have had a time of dying to self, when we awake, we will see if He has given it His life and, if He has, we will be unshakeable. To be unshakeable before that death makes us fanatics.

Great scripture: "Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’ concerning all that this people call a conspiracy, nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled. The LORD of hosts, Him you shall hallow; let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread. He will be as a sanctuary..." (Isaiah 8:11-15)

Be blessed.
"Anything you think you know about God that you can't find in the person of Jesus, you have reason to question.” - anonymous

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Re: The Coming Destruction of the Apostate Church

Post by steve7150 » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:22 pm

Someone gave me a DVD about a conspiracy theory that was so convincing and frightening that the very power of the thing to keep me preoccupied was a sign that, even if the conspiracy was real, it would be wrong to give time to it, but rather, “supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men.”

Maybe Masons do rule the world, and if so, so what? Maybe they don't. If one possesses a great knowledge that no one else knows or understands, so what? Just put it out there for what it's worth, knowing that in time, it will be proven true or not. No one has to follow you, or me.





Well said!

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