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by _foc
Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:45 am
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: Does adultery really break the marriage bond?
Replies: 60
Views: 42957

I don't see forced celibacy the same way. Indeed, it is a blessing in that Paul says one can serve the Lord better. And when Paul and Christ fully acknowledge that many men and women CANNOT endure celibacy ? Youre not being realistic about this at all but using something Paul presented as desirable...
by _foc
Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:43 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: What are the implications of remarriage being adultery?
Replies: 19
Views: 10496

Well, guys, I think Ive stirred up enough trouble here. It wasnt intentional, and I hope it wasnt taken that way. I do believe as Steve that 'time spent' has far less to say about this matter, or any other issue of study, but what is more important is the quality of that study. Does a man simply loo...
by _foc
Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:48 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: Does adultery really break the marriage bond?
Replies: 60
Views: 42957

When we divorce our spouses 'for EVERY cause' (ie hardheartedly) we commit adultery against each other when we remarry. Again, I must accept that fact or be in opposition to Christ Himself. Ah, OK. Great. So what then do you understand that Jesus meant when he said that the innocent woman commits a...
by _foc
Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:37 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: Please help! Correct me if I'm wrong...
Replies: 34
Views: 17967

So at what point does the innocent woman's second marriage turn from unlawful to lawful? And thats the problem. YOu are assuming that Christ is declaring the marriage itself as a 'state' of adultery...He isnt. While you insist upon this point, you will never understand what Christ was saying TO THE...
by _foc
Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:07 am
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: What are the implications of remarriage being adultery?
Replies: 19
Views: 10496

To make a distinction between the Old Testament and the New in this issue is to miss the point. A fatal flaw in any doctrine is ever believing that God Himself has 'changed' in His views. I agree that when we make any distinction between covenants and believe that Gods heart has changed in the leas...
by _foc
Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:14 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: What are the implications of remarriage being adultery?
Replies: 19
Views: 10496

What are the implications of remarriage being adultery? A better question is this. Why do some make remarriage a greater sin than the thing that God Himself says He 'hates'....the putting away itself ? Oddly God HATES divorce, yet many of these doctrines literally minimize the divorce part and elev...
by _foc
Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:42 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: What are the implications of remarriage being adultery?
Replies: 19
Views: 10496

I have to say that it is important to understand that John was preparing the way for a then evil generation that was not yet operating under grace. John represented the old and Jesus the new Absolutely. Great post ! John was the last OT prophet who accused Herod with the law as Jesus had not even s...
by _foc
Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:35 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: What are the implications of remarriage being adultery?
Replies: 19
Views: 10496

In some situations Jesus says that if a person remarries they commit adultery. What are the implications of that teaching? Most of us would forbid adultery. So should we forbid these marriages as well? But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving h...
by _foc
Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:20 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: Does adultery really break the marriage bond?
Replies: 60
Views: 42957

Hello foc, Just a suggestion. Please tone it down a bit. Many of us enjoy this forum because we love and respect one another. It seems to me that you have some emotional tie to your understanding and therefore you seem to feel the need to pursuade rather than converse. I may be full of hot air on t...
by _foc
Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:15 pm
Forum: Marriage & Divorce
Topic: Does adultery really break the marriage bond?
Replies: 60
Views: 42957

Hi FOC I have not mentioned 'adulterous marriages' in this post i dont think. So it looks like you are going down that path alone. So let's try and stay away from that, hey? I think this might be where Im having some trouble. You havent yet confirmed or denied whether you believe that remarriages a...

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