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[Guest]

I do not understand your application of scripture. According to what you wrote, Jesus promised resurrection only to the Corinthians? The passage plainly addresses physical death and resurrection.

It has been wisely remarked that all scripture was not written to us, but it was all written for us.

[Guest]

I could be wrong but aren’t these scriptures directed to, “…those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ”; “to all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be saints” AND “To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours” (Rom 1:6), (Rom 1:7), (1 Cor 1:2) respectively.

I read these letters by Paul to the believers in Rome and Corinth much the same way a coach might speak to a football team. The coach is only speaking to members of a specific team; however he references them as ALL. “We are all going to come back from half time and win” --- he is only speaking to those that are members of the team; all cannot mean for example members from the other team.

Within the context of the complete letters, Paul is speaking to “those who are called to belong to Jesus Christ. He tells them in 1 Cor 15:21-22, that ALL men will be made alive. He certainly could not be saying that all men on earth will be made alive for we know not all are saved. He is saying ALL of those he is specifically addressing, “To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours”

1MansView

Let's see:

Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned--
Rom 5:13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law.
Rom 5:14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.
Rom 5:15 But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man's trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many.
Rom 5:16 And the free gift is not like the result of that one man's sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification.
Rom 5:17 If, because of one man's trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ.
Rom 5:18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.
Rom 5:19 For as by the one man's disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man's obedience the many will be made righteous.
Rom 5:20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin

Nope, Paul's not just talking about the people in Rome that are Christians. He's talking about all people from Adam, through Moses and the Law up to the time Paul dictated this letter. He's explaining how we all die in Adam, and how we all are justified by Christ in the same manner as death spread to ALL by the transgression of Adam, Christ provided justification and life to ALL men. Now do only Christians die? or do all the human race die because of Adam and sin? ALL die, and the same ALL who die are justified by the "one act of righteousness".

Unless Paul, in speaking to Rome was totally unable to speak generically about the human race. But I don't see why this would be the case, especially since he goes back and talks about Adam. I don't think Adam was alive in Rome and was one of the people Paul was addressing.

[Guest]

I do not understand your application of scripture. According to what you wrote, Jesus promised resurrection only to the Corinthians? The passage plainly addresses physical death and resurrection.

It has been wisely remarked that all scripture was not written to us, but it was all written for us.

Homer,

Sorry for not expressing my point clearly. I meant that Paul was speaking to believers not to ALL mankind. This is evidenced by his address at the beginning of each letter. This does not exclude other believers outside of Corinth or Rome or outside of that period. At least as I read it.

1MansView

[Guest]

The passage plainly addresses physical death and resurrection.

Pertaining to the passage in 1 Cor you are correct. The passage in Romans however plainly addresses condemnation and justification.

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