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Any thoughts since Adam was the representative of mankind?

the union of a man in wife in scripture tells us many things. the man represents the spirit, (our spirit is supposed to govern us) and the woman represents the flesh. this is why man is the head of woman, the Spirit is supposed to be over the flesh. Satan came at Adam thru his flesh which was eve and this is how satan always comes, thru our flesh.

because adam was so much wiser than eve. after all, he was a few hours older.

TK

seriously though- i think it was because eve was closer to the tree.

The bottom line is that satan obviously knew that he could deceive eve. scripture tells us that eve was deceived but adam was not deceived.

examining the passage tells us alot about eve. in God's view the tree of life was in the midst of the garden. but eve in her conversation with the serpent says the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was in the midst of the garden. this shows you even had been thinking alot about that tree. and when questioned she said that God said they could not eat of it or touch it. But God never said anything about not touching it. eve reveals her own desires here. in 1 john 2:16 John tells us what is of the world and not of God.
the Lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. and all three are reflected in eve in the genesis account.

Gen 3:6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,(lust of the flesh) that it was pleasant to the eyes,(lust of the eyes) and a tree desirable to make one wise,(Pride of life) she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

Benaiah wrote:The bottom line is that satan obviously knew that he could deceive eve. scripture tells us that eve was deceived but adam was not deceived.

examining the passage tells us alot about eve. in God's view the tree of life was in the midst of the garden. but eve in her conversation with the serpent says the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was in the midst of the garden. this shows you even had been thinking alot about that tree. and when questioned she said that God said they could not eat of it or touch it. But God never said anything about not touching it. eve reveals her own desires here. in 1 john 2:16 John tells us what is of the world and not of God.
the Lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life. and all three are reflected in eve in the genesis account.

Gen 3:6 So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,(lust of the flesh) that it was pleasant to the eyes,(lust of the eyes) and a tree desirable to make one wise,(Pride of life) she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.

I like this post a lot more than your first post. My thinking was much the same, that Satan must have known that Eve was more vulnerable and easier to deceive than Adam. Or maybe that once Eve gave in, it would be easier for Adam to follow?

B-

what makes you think that Satan could not have deceived Adam?

It still seems like a fortuity to me that he picked on Eve first.

TK

Benaiah wrote:the union of a man in wife in scripture tells us many things. the man represents the spirit, (our spirit is supposed to govern us) and the woman represents the flesh. this is why man is the head of woman, the Spirit is supposed to be over the flesh. Satan came at Adam thru his flesh which was eve and this is how satan always comes, thru our flesh.

Here I go taking the thread off course again:

Benaiah, I've never heard this interpretation of marriage before. Where does it come from?

How far do you press the analogy? Personally, it doesn't sound too flattering to be considered the "flesh" part of the marriage. Here are some things said about the flesh in scripture:

1. It profits nothing (John 6:63)
   It's weak (Romans 6:19)
   It serves the law of sin (Romans 7)
   Those in the flesh cannot please God (Romans 8:8 )
   Its works are pretty disgusting (Galatians 5:19)
   Those who are Christ's have crucified it (Galatians 5:24)
   Those who sow to it reap corruption (Galatians 6:8 )

Is this what you would want to be married to for a lifetime?

I much prefer the analogy of Christ and the Church (Ephesians 5:22 - 33)

TK wrote:B-

what makes you think that Satan could not have deceived Adam?

It still seems like a fortuity to me that he picked on Eve first.

TK

Look at Paul's argument of why he does not allow a woman to have authority over a man.

1Ti 2:12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.
1Ti 2:13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.
1Ti 2:14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.

Paul bases this not only on the order of creation but upon the fact that the woman was deceived while adam was not. it was not eve's transgression that brought sin and death into the world it was Adam's. Adam sinned knowingly Eve was deceived. Adam failed to protect her and instead joined in her transgression. Then blamed her for it, instead of accepting the responsibilty of it as He should have.

i am not arguing the facts; Paul's teaching obviously flows from the fact that eve was deceived and then adam sinned afterward.

but again, this does not show that it was impossible for the reverse to have occurred.

TK

Maybe the answer is as simple as this - Eve was the person who went and gathered the food for the both of them. Satan capitalized on the moment of weakness. Its kind of like don't go grocery shopping on an empty stomach.