Generational Curses and the like...

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Generational Curses and the like...

Post by _windwords7 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:06 am

There is some prevalent teaching in certain parts of the body of Christ about generational curses and seeing these broken in peoples/families lives. There is also a more tame version that talks about predisposition and patterns that are passed generationally. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

A couple of specific questions:

1. If you don't believe in GC's do is it possible to have a generational predisposition towards behaviors that transcend genetics alone? In other words can their be some sort of spiritual influence that runs in families and seems to manifest repeated in the same way from family to family and generation to generation?

2. If you subscribe to the GC's teachings how is the effectively applied in your life?

Here is something I found on this subject. I am not an advocate for this teaching personally but I am working through what I do and don't believe in a larger sense.
3. Generational sin patterns

When God gave the Ten Commandments to the children of Israel, He included a section indicating that the sins of the fathers can be visited upon the children for three or four generations. He said,

"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;" (Exodus 20:5 KJV)

Notice that He did not say He would punish the children for the sins of the fathers, nor did He say that they would have to follow after the sins of their fathers. He did say, however, that the sins of the fathers would be "visited" upon the children for three or four generations.

Sinful tendencies can be visited upon families. These might be called iniquities, or inherited weaknesses, or there might be demonic spirits assigned to work out the same sin for succeeding generations. These repeated patterns of sinful behavior often are the seat of satanic strongholds in people. These unwelcome iniquities can be resisted; however, because of their presence in parents they are so familiar that the child often gives in to them before he realizes what is happening. The child might condone and desire the behavior of the parent and receive it into himself. On the other hand, the child might condemn and judge the parent, vowing never to be like that, thereby reaping the consequence of his self-righteous judgment and following in the same behavior pattern, even though he hates it. There are various ways in which these iniquities are visited upon and received by succeeding generations in families.

We see these behavior patterns in the stories of men in the Bible. Abraham told the Egyptian Pharaoh that his wife Sarah was his sister, because he feared that the Pharaoh would kill him in order to take Sarah if he knew the truth (Genesis 12:10-14). In verses 1-7 of Genesis 26, we find Isaac doing the same thing. This pattern of deception continued, as Isaac was later deceived by his own son, Jacob (Genesis 27:21-35). Jacob, in turn, was deceived by his uncle, who gave him Leah instead of Rachel to marry, and by his sons concerning the status of their brother Joseph (Genesis 37:31-33). Thus the sinful pattern of deception was repeated for four generations.
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Post by _schoel » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:56 pm

1. If you don't believe in GC's do is it possible to have a generational predisposition towards behaviors that transcend genetics alone? In other words can their be some sort of spiritual influence that runs in families and seems to manifest repeated in the same way from family to family and generation to generation?
The spiritual direction and bent of the parents tends to be adopted by the children because parents are the most influential teachers of their children. And we all have the curse of a sin nature in our lives.

My main issue with GC ideas is when it is applied to the believer. Wouldn't these "curses" be broken by the power of the Cross and the Holy Spirit when a person enters the kingdome of God? In a believer's sanctification, should they focus on Christ, or programs and processes designed to eliminate GC's?

A couple of comments on the Generational Curses exerpt you quoted -

1) Note that Exodus 20:5 qualifies itself by ending with "...of those who hate me". Then the example of Abraham passing deception onto his son is given. However, Abraham isn't grouped under the category of those who hate God (Romans 4:3).

2) The "trail of deception" through Abrahams family seems too common to prove the idea of GC's. Unfortunately, lying is a sin that is experienced universally in every generation and every culture. I'll bet my grandfather, my father, myself and my son have all lied at some point. Is that a generational curse or simply because we all have a sin nature?
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Post by _windwords7 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:46 pm

schoel wrote:
1. If you don't believe in GC's do is it possible to have a generational predisposition towards behaviors that transcend genetics alone? In other words can their be some sort of spiritual influence that runs in families and seems to manifest repeated in the same way from family to family and generation to generation?
The spiritual direction and bent of the parents tends to be adopted by the children because parents are the most influential teachers of their children. And we all have the curse of a sin nature in our lives.

My main issue with GC ideas is when it is applied to the believer. Wouldn't these "curses" be broken by the power of the Cross and the Holy Spirit when a person enters the kingdome of God? In a believer's sanctification, should they focus on Christ, or programs and processes designed to eliminate GC's?

A couple of comments on the Generational Curses exerpt you quoted -

1) Note that Exodus 20:5 qualifies itself by ending with "...of those who hate me". Then the example of Abraham passing deception onto his son is given. However, Abraham isn't grouped under the category of those who hate God (Romans 4:3).

2) The "trail of deception" through Abrahams family seems too common to prove the idea of GC's. Unfortunately, lying is a sin that is experienced universally in every generation and every culture. I'll bet my grandfather, my father, myself and my son have all lied at some point. Is that a generational curse or simply because we all have a sin nature?
I agree with you and appreciate your comments. I don't agree with the hardcore GC teachers out there who feel the need to really go deep into this issue although I am open to seeing things differently if someone has a real strong case for it.

I think if you look you can see find specific sins issues (unlike lying which seems universal I mean something more specific like murder), behaviors, and or actions that seem to be repeated generationally. The question then becomes is this spiritually related or some other issue like genetics, nurture, environment, etc.
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Post by _Micah » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:38 pm

schoel wrote: My main issue with GC ideas is when it is applied to the believer. Wouldn't these "curses" be broken by the power of the Cross and the Holy Spirit when a person enters the kingdome of God? In a believer's sanctification, should they focus on Christ, or programs and processes designed to eliminate GC's?
These are good questions. What do you mean by broken? I mean obviously the temptation is still there. Are you referring to a lessening of the power of temptation because it seems, to me anyway, that the temptation towards your weakness never goes away?

On another side note for GC's I have noticed from my experience that some people take on some of their parent's sin behaviors and they don't of others. Like one might be partial to over drinking like their parents, but not over eating like their parents. So, how does that work in the GC's theorists mind?

Or for those of you who are not GC theorists how about those that are separated from one of their parents at an early stage in life and then end up having the same sinful weaknesses as that parent who had no influence?
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