Presuppositional Apologetics=Good stuff

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darinhouston
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Re: Presuppositional Apologetics=Good stuff

Post by darinhouston » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:09 am

Jill wrote: I messed up the SNL Stewart Smally quote also. The end goes ..."because dog gone it, people like you."
Actually, for Stewart Smalley fans everywhere, it's "I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and dog-gone it, people like me." (not "good-looking")

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Re: Presuppositional Apologetics=Good stuff

Post by lee » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:35 am

Jill, it's all good. I just hope that you're not hiding behind entanglements of your own concoction. Truth is straightforward. I think that's why Jesus said that one needs to become like a child to be part of the kingdom. Besides children that lie, they're particularly both innocent and straightforward. And perhaps that is why it is written that "the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God" (1 Co. 3:19). The idea of one Creator, man rebelling against that Creator, and the need for forgiveness and reconciliation is not a difficult one to grasp, as I've seen even young children explain it to others.

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Post by Jill » Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:29 pm

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Re: Presuppositional Apologetics=Good stuff

Post by lee » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:06 pm

Jill, sometimes it seems like there's a bit of nonsensicalness to your words (no offense in the slightest meant). Perhaps this is part of your seemingly postmodern radical skepticism. However, this is the only other consistent worldview you can resort to besides the Christian faith. Steward Smalley has nothing to do with this conversation. You conflate categories like it's nothing at all. Again, you offer assertions and nothing more. Presuppositional apologetics forces you to realize that even in your own statement, "Stuart Smalley...seems also gay sensitive, which I am not, nor should children be," you Presuppose the Christian worldview with the assertion that children should be one way or another. "Should" implies "ought" and "ought" implies a "standard," a standard only provided through Scripture and which falls apart without Scripture. The illustration utilizing the idea of the innocence and straightforwardness of a child is only to show how simple the message is, a message so simple even a child can understand and even explain. It seems that it would be more beneficial to not simply make assertions without providing substantive reasoning.
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Post by Jill » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:50 pm

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Re: Presuppositional Apologetics=Good stuff

Post by lee » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:03 am

I know I speak and write sometimes very directly, but I hope you don't take offense at these words. I only try to give strong reasons for why I believe. I am also trying to work on and maintain a sincere sense of love and gentleness. Have a good day :-)

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