Where/What is "Heaven"?

Post by **_roblaine** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:16 pm

TK wrote:I think it is possible that heaven is not a physical place right now; since the inhabitants of heaven right now are spirit beings, i dont think it has to be physical; therefore it might be a "state." Not sure what kind of state though.

Scientists keep talking these days about "dark matter" and "dark energy." maybe that has something to do with it.

TK

TK, where do you think Jesus is?

Robin

Post by **_TK** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:38 pm

good point, Robin. i'd say I kind of forgot about Him when I made my last post, but that would be too embarassing.

Jesus indeed has a physical, but glorified body. He is in heaven. However, perhaps his resurrected body allows him to also exist in a non-physical "state."

Heck, I don't know. what do you think?

TK

Post by **_roblaine** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:15 pm

Hi TK,
I don't think I could answer with any confidence. In His glorified state, Jesus was able to appear and disappear. I'm not sure what kind of environment would be needed to necessitate His physical state. I guess I'll just have to wait and find out.

Robin

Post by **_Father_of_five** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:13 am

Homer,

The following passage from 1 Cor 15 has led me to believe that we will be spirit beings in heaven.

1 Cor 15:42-46
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." F51 The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.

Todd

Post by **_TK** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:36 am

Hi todd-

your point begs the question- was Jesus a "spiritual being" in his resurrected body?

TK

Post by **_Father_of_five** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:11 pm

TK wrote:Hi todd-

your point begs the question- was Jesus a "spiritual being" in his resurrected body?

TK

TK,

Good question. I know He could eat and be touched, but He could also appear and disappear too, right? I don't know the answer.

Todd

Post by **_Allyn** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:17 pm

I just started a book titled "Heaven" by Randy Alcorn. When I'm done I suppose I will understand all there is to know about the subject.

Post by **_TK** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:53 pm

Allyn --i read that book a year or so ago-- if what is explained in the book is true, i would be very happy. of course i will be just as happy if something else is true.

TK

Post by **_Allyn** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:41 pm

TK wrote:Allyn --i read that book a year or so ago-- if what is explained in the book is true, i would be very happy. of course i will be just as happy if something else is true.

TK

So far I like the way he presents it, but I can't help but think it is mostly speculation. He makes the point that heaven is not preached on much but I believe that is for good reason, not enough to really go on, and our lives should be spent in service rather than just what we get out of it. There must be a balance.