I found this beauty while listening to Leading Mormon Apologist Van Hale's radio show. The guest is an ex mormon, and he confronts Van on this subject. Van, when backed into a corner is forced to admit that Joseph lied. You can tell by listening to Van that he was very nervous at this point.
Here is the link. The drama unfolds at around 45-48 minute mark. Enjoy.
http://www.i4m.com/think/van-hale/Van-Hale-301005.mp3
Leading Mormon Apologist admits Joseph Smith lied.
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Leading Mormon Apologist admits Joseph Smith lied.
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For our God is a consuming fire.
Hebrews 12:29
Hebrews 12:29
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Classic. It that guy really considered a Mormon apologist? He doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the shed. 

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HAHAMort_Coyle wrote:Classic. It that guy really considered a Mormon apologist? He doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the shed.
Ive always thought the same thing. Van has had many debates with men such as James White, Walter Martin, ETC...and in everyone of them he gets creamed. I feel embarressed just listening to him sometimes. But I have to hand it to him, at least he tries to make some sense out of Mormonism. Most missionaries wouldn't dare try and defend their faith on an intellectual level.
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Reason:
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For our God is a consuming fire.
Hebrews 12:29
Hebrews 12:29