A great explanation of the trinity

Post by **_STEVE7150** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:14 pm

p.s. if you dont know, Hugh Ross is as astrophysicist christian apologist. he argues that a billions of year old universe is compatible with the Bible, and is actually quite convincing. but he believes that God indeed created the universe and that evolution is not biblical. he believes in a "local" vs global flood. there is some interesting stuff on his website at reasons.org

I've read one of his books, he makes a lot of sense to me. If God's handywork is seen in the heavens it seems to me unlikely that God would make the heavens appear to be billions of years old when it isn't.

Post by **_Homer** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:15 am

Paidion,

What was God doing eighty-twelve jillion years before He created anything? Nothing?
Was it just an impersonal existence with no events? You can consider any amount of time before "The Beginning". Nothing happened.

My own view of the matter is that God was never "alone". There was always God, The Word, and the Spirit; both unity and diversity within the Godhead. The three are coeval. The Word no more had a beginning than God did.

We were not created because God needed company. Acts 17:25; "Nor is He worshiped with men's hands as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, and breath, and all things. IMHO, we were created for God to share the love and fellowship the Trinity had.

Post by **_TK** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:05 pm

Homer said:

We were not created because God needed company

i agree-- i recently read tozer's "knowledge of the holy" and he discussed this-- i cant remember which attribute he was referencing-- i believe it was self-sufficiency.

TK

Post by **_Paidion** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:01 pm

We were not created because God needed company. Acts 17:25; "Nor is He worshiped with men's hands as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, and breath, and all things.

In the verse you quoted, Homer, the phrase "needed anything" does not have reference to people but to objects of worship [see verse 23] such as the Athenians were using to honour their gods.

Whether God "needs company" depends on what you mean by "needed". Certainly God does not "need" us in the sense that His continued existence and well-being would be threatened without us. The same might be said concerning some of us. Not everyone "needs" company.

When we put together an object to enjoy or to sell, do we "need" that object? In one sense, we don't. We could survive without it. In another sense we do. If not, why create it?

IMHO, we were created for God to share the love and fellowship the Trinity had

That sounds similar to affirming that God needs our company (in the second sense).