KJV "given by God"?

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by Candlepower » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:15 pm

mattrose wrote:
I really think it comes down to a natural desire for 'certainty.' Some people just aren't comfortable with the idea that we don't have a 100% perfect book. The reality is just too messy for them....
Interesting point, Matt. I think you may have spotted an important nail and have hit it square on its head -- Fear of uncertainty!

Idolatry involves constructing a god you can see, touch, hold, and manipulate. People are uncomfortable with the idea of a god they cannot see, so they make god "real" by making an idol they can see. An idol somehow satisfies "a natural desire for certainty." It's real if you can see it--that's idolatry.

I love the KJV, but the KJV is not my idol, as it appears to be for some. God is perfect; the KJV is not.

I have four questions for Steve's antagonist:

1) If you were to translate John 3:16 (KJV) into Swahili, would the result be sacrilegious? I mean, Swahili is not even close to English. Or,
2) Would you be compelled to teach English to one who speaks Swahili before you would discuss John 3:16 with him. And,
3) Would you teach him the King's English? Also,
4) Do you speak the King's English?

Come on, brother, "...God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7 NKJV). Or, as you would have it, "...God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." (2 Timothy 1:7 KJV).

I urge you to use your "sound mind" and to stop idolizing King Jame's version of the Bible, as it appears to me that you do.

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by Paidion » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:41 pm

This man has no tolerance for anyone who does not see the truth that God dropped the AV out of the sky. Everyone else is a bunch of homos, etc., etc., etc.

His final sentence was:
... And with no King James Bible as final authority, every man believes that which is right in his own eyes.
This sounds familiar! I think I've received something similar with regards to my own belief that Jesus is a Christian's authority rather than the Bible.
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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by steve » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:07 pm

I wrote back to my correspondent and said, simply, "Thanks again for sharing your opinions."

He wrote:
No, I'm informing you of your infidelity because you reject the Bible.

Please don't write me back, you obviously have no ability to learn.

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by Paidion » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:19 pm

INCREDIBLE

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by Ian » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:12 am

Steve wrote:
Can you imagine the impression this man makes on the unbelievers he "witnesses" to?
A penny for your thoughts Steve. When you get mails from all these wierdos in the Christian fold who are misrepresenting Christ to non-believers does it, philosophically at least, increase your sympathy for the idea of some kind of reconciliation for all, non-believers alike? I know it does me.

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by steve » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:55 am

It makes it much easier to understand why true searchers might, without adequate investigation, reject Christianity as a credible option.

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by brody196 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:43 pm

steve wrote:It makes it much easier to understand why true searchers might, without adequate investigation, reject Christianity as a credible option.
I shudder to think how many people have rejected Christ because of this..

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by Perry » Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:55 pm

This "guy" didn't by any chance have "dorian" as part of his email address did "he"? ;)

But seriously, I always thought those "KJV was good enough for Paul" people were just an apocryphal story to make a point. This guy... wow.

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by Homer » Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:24 pm

All atheists agree with you - they also claim the AV was not 'supernaturally produced' but is merely a human product. Bird of a feather flock together.
Supernaturally produced! Perhaps I should repent of being critical of King James because he would not allow certain words to be translated. :oops:

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Re: KJV "given by God"?

Post by Paidion » Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:08 am

Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others. (Philippians 2:4 AV)

Let's see. It seems that the King James Version is asking us to be envious of other people's things.
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