Concerning Heretics and Those That Burn Them

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Re: Concerning Heretics and Those That Burn Them

Post by 21centpilgrim » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:47 pm

Paidon, I am saying that the early Anabaptist held to the traditional view of hell and the punishment/judgement of God. As to those today who would claim the Anabaptist as part of their spiritual heritage, I am sure there are traditionalist and progressives who would differ on the topic of hell.
My point was that the 16th century Anabaptist believed in the traditional view of hell and were also pacifist. All with biblical conviction.
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Re: Concerning Heretics and Those That Burn Them

Post by Homer » Mon Sep 01, 2014 8:42 pm

The logic that we ought to do what God does has a basis in the teaching of Christ
But God can and does condemn people to hell. I'm thinking we should not do that.
First, it is assumed that "ἐκδικησις" (ekdikāsis) means "vengeance". The word is derived from "δικη" (dikā) which means "justice". So the meaning may be that God will execute justice for all.


Would it be unjust for God to severely punish Hitler?

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Re: Concerning Heretics and Those That Burn Them

Post by Paidion » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:14 am

Homer, you wrote:
Paidion wrote:The logic that we ought to do what God does has a basis in the teaching of Christ
But God can and does condemn people to hell. I'm thinking we should not do that.
Fortunately, none of us has the power to do that, or I'm sure a lot of us would! For I have often heard people express the wish, "May he rot in hell!"
Homer, you wrote:
Paidion wrote:First, it is assumed that "ἐκδικησις" (ekdikāsis) means "vengeance". The word is derived from "δικη" (dikā) which means "justice". So the meaning may be that God will execute justice for all.
Would it be unjust for God to severely punish Hitler?
If that is what it would take to bring him to repentance—no. But God doesn't execute useless, vengeful punishment that has no object except to cause pain.
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