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by dwight92070 » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:58 am
Seballius,
When our non-Trinitarian friends try to explain away John 8:58, they want us to believe that the very words in front of us do not actually mean what they obviously mean. All of their arguments, in my opinion, fall to the ground on this verse, especially, but also on so many others. In fact, for all of the verses we've given them, their answer is the same - "Here's what that verse REALLY means" blah-blah-blah No disrespect meant but as I've stated before, the more explaining away they do on these verses, the further they get from the truth -in my opinion.
They also want us to believe that translators with Trinitarian persuasion have deliberately translated the Greek and the Hebrew incorrectly so that the translation ends up supporting their view. Is this possible? Yes, but is it likely with so many verses that proclaim that Jesus is God? I don't think so. Also, I would venture to say that, of the men who have translated the Greek and the Hebrew throughout the centuries, the majority were sincere and honest, deliberately trying to be unbiased. Also, I believe God watches over His word, to preserve it's accuracy, so that mankind will always have access to the truth. Are their charlatans and false teachers? Of course, but their are also sincere, honest, men who loved God and feared Him enough to attempt to produce an accurate translation.
They want us to believe that there is God and there is man, but there is also a third category -i.e. one particular man who is worthy of worship and praise and adoration (although one posted that you're really worshipping the Father, not this man), who is not God. Some of them say that this one man, who is often called the same names as the Father - God, Eternal Father, Savior, Lord, Redeemer, Creator, I AM, the Word, King of Kings and Lord of Lords, Wonderful, Counselor, the mighty God - is actually neither God nor the Father. This one man is worshipped by all of heaven, including myriads of myriads and thousands of thousands of angels - he is given EQUAL worship as is given to the Father - yet, they say, He is not God.
Jesus said, "The Father is in Me and I am in the Father." Obviously, we don't fully understand that, but Jesus WANTED US TO KNOW THAT, so we CAN understand it to some degree - to the degree that we give Him equal worship as to God our Father, and that the Father is pleased when we understand that Jesus was Emmanuel - God with us. Jesus and the Father are One.
God bless you,
Dwight