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Bill Schlegel Videos

Post by darinhouston » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:25 am

These short videos deal very briefly with single verses that are rarely addressed by Trinitarians. We tend to focus on the Trinitarian proof-texts and rarely discuss those verses which are more "difficult" to a Trinitarian perspective. They come up, but we rarely stay on topic and stick to these verses in their own context. Some of them may well have straightforward answers, and documenting that here has value.

This might be a good place to start a "tighter" discussion of these verses.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUqW ... l03yTJbTiG

Here is the short list
1 Timothy 2:4-5
John 17:3
John 20:17
John 20:30-31
John 14:1
John 8:40
Acts 2:22
Acts 2:36

His "summary of these videos"
Schlegel wrote:1 Timothy 2:4-5
The Apostle Paul wrote that the truth is that there is one God and one mediator between God and men, a man Christ Jesus.

The apostle differentiated between God and Jesus the Christ. Christ Jesus is not God, but a man.

If the Apostle Paul thought that Jesus had to be God or a God-man to atone for our sin, or to be our mediator, why would the apostle write that the one mediator between God and man is a man?

This verse, and many others like it, is a clear statement that for the Apostle Paul, a man (not a God-man), Jesus the Messiah, was the true and sufficient mediator between God and man.
Schlegel wrote:John 17:3
If God is a Trinity, and if Jesus is God, why would Jesus Christ say in John 17:3 that the Father is the only true God?

And why would Jesus Christ differentiate himself from God, not including himself in his description of the only true God?

Trinitarians and those who believe in the deity of Christ say that the Gospel of John is the main book in the New Testament that presents Jesus as God. Yet, here in the Gospel of John, Jesus says that the Father is the only true God, and that Jesus, distinct from God, is the Messiah.

Doesn't John 17:3 contradict the idea that God is a Trinity, and that Jesus is God?
Schlegel wrote:John 20:17
The Lord Jesus Christ has a God.

As recorded in the Gospel of John 20:17, soon after he was raised from the dead, Jesus told Mary Magdalene "...go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

If Jesus is God, how can he have a God?
Schlegel wrote:John 20:30-31
Many Christians who believe in the deity of Christ claim that the Gospel of John is one of the main books, if not the main book in the New Testament that says that Jesus is God.

But this claim contradicts the purpose statement of the author of the Gospel.

The author of the Gospel of John says he recorded the signs (miracles) that Jesus did so that "you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God..."

Shouldn't the author know why he wrote his Gospel? Do deity of Christ believers know better than the author why he wrote his Gospel?

For a fuller explanation of the purpose of the Gospel of John see here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fw44JRTIiV0&t=0s

and here:
http://www.onegodreport.com/john_11_and ... l_podcasts
Schlegel wrote:John 14:1
Many people think that the Gospel of John is the main book in the New Testament that declares that "Jesus is God".

If that is the case, why would Jesus, on the night before he was crucified, differentiate between himself and God by telling his disciples, "...believe in God. Believe also in me."?
Schlegel wrote:John 8:40
In John 8:40, Jesus said that he was "a man that told you the truth that I heard from God".

The Gospel of John is said to be the main book in the Bible that proclaims that Jesus is God. Yet in this Gospel Jesus says he is "a man that heard the truth from God".

Why did Jesus differentiate himself from God in this Gospel? If Jesus was God, or a god-man, why would he say he is "a man"? Isn't that being deceptive?

Church doctrine for hundreds of years has been that Jesus is "man but not a man" because if Jesus was "a man", he would be two persons (a divine person and a human person).

In the Gospel of John, Jesus said that he was a man who heard the truth from God. Jesus' statement contradicts the "deity of Christ" claim.
Schlegel wrote:Acts 2:22 and Acts 2:36
In the first recorded sermon of the Apostle Peter after Jesus was raised from the dead and exalted to heaven, Peter says nothing about believing that God is a Trinity, or that Jesus is God.

Rather, Peter insists that Jesus was a man attested by God by signs and mighty works that God did through him. Jesus was put to death, but raised from the dead by God. And God MADE Jesus both Lord and Christ.

If Jesus was God, why wouldn't Peter say so in this sermon? And if Jesus is God, why would Peter ever say that God MADE Jesus Lord and Christ (Messiah)?

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