Has anyone read this article? I'm curious to hear people's thoughts.
Damon
Ark of the Covenant
Ark of the Covenant
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Sounds like fodder for dispensational "prophecy updates". I'll tune in to Jack Van Impe next week and see how he spins it. If he can dovetail the discussion into his current obesession with the St. Malachy prophecies, it should be a doozy. Popes, and arks, and proof texts - oh my!
JD
JD
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I guess you never bothered to look at Vendyl's web site, did you? *sighs*
One of the major claims of the biblical minimalists has been that the United Monarchy of Israel didn't exist in the form that the bible describes. At best, it was the convenient political fiction of later kings such as Hezekiah and Josiah. But nevertheless, archaeological and epigraphic evidence together make a pretty good case that the minimalists are dead wrong.
Vendyl Jones is NOT a flake. He's NOT a Jack Van Impe, or anything of the sort. He took the Copper Scroll, which contains a list of the Temple Treasures which were hidden prior to the Babylonian siege, and spent twenty years trying to locate some of these treasures. A lot of people thought he was crazy because they believed that the Copper Scroll wasn't authentic and was written much later than the sixth century BC. But just like Heinrich Schillemann proved the world wrong when he discovered the supposedly mythological city of Troy from what he read in Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, Vendyl Jones proved the academic world wrong about the Copper Scroll when he discovered two of the items listed on it: the Holy Anointing Oil which was used to anoint the kings, priests and prophets of ancient Israel, as well as a year's supply of the Temple Incense, exactly where the Copper Scroll said that they would be found.
CBS even did a special on Vendyl Jones in the 80's when he first found the Holy Anointing Oil. It doesn't surprise me that you've never heard of him, because not many people have, but he can't be just another flake because he has the physical evidence to prove otherwise.
But that's not what kind of thoughts I was talking about when I originally asked. I mean, what do you guys think he'll find? Will he find the Ark? Something else, perhaps? Is he digging in the right place? That sort of thing.
Damon
PS. People were skeptical of Jesus in His day, too.
One of the major claims of the biblical minimalists has been that the United Monarchy of Israel didn't exist in the form that the bible describes. At best, it was the convenient political fiction of later kings such as Hezekiah and Josiah. But nevertheless, archaeological and epigraphic evidence together make a pretty good case that the minimalists are dead wrong.
Vendyl Jones is NOT a flake. He's NOT a Jack Van Impe, or anything of the sort. He took the Copper Scroll, which contains a list of the Temple Treasures which were hidden prior to the Babylonian siege, and spent twenty years trying to locate some of these treasures. A lot of people thought he was crazy because they believed that the Copper Scroll wasn't authentic and was written much later than the sixth century BC. But just like Heinrich Schillemann proved the world wrong when he discovered the supposedly mythological city of Troy from what he read in Homer's Iliad and Odyssey, Vendyl Jones proved the academic world wrong about the Copper Scroll when he discovered two of the items listed on it: the Holy Anointing Oil which was used to anoint the kings, priests and prophets of ancient Israel, as well as a year's supply of the Temple Incense, exactly where the Copper Scroll said that they would be found.
CBS even did a special on Vendyl Jones in the 80's when he first found the Holy Anointing Oil. It doesn't surprise me that you've never heard of him, because not many people have, but he can't be just another flake because he has the physical evidence to prove otherwise.
But that's not what kind of thoughts I was talking about when I originally asked. I mean, what do you guys think he'll find? Will he find the Ark? Something else, perhaps? Is he digging in the right place? That sort of thing.
Damon
PS. People were skeptical of Jesus in His day, too.
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They were skeptical because He said things such as, "But I say to you, that something greater than the temple is here." Matthew 12:6
John's gospel gives an example of such skepticism. "Jesus answered and said to them, 'Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. The Jews therefore said, 'It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?' But He was speaking of the temple of His body." John 2:19-21
They can find the ark and set it on my porch, but I'll step right over it and still look to Jesus Christ - the greater, the substance, the true. "But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;" Hebrews 11:9
Peace,
JD
John's gospel gives an example of such skepticism. "Jesus answered and said to them, 'Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. The Jews therefore said, 'It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?' But He was speaking of the temple of His body." John 2:19-21
They can find the ark and set it on my porch, but I'll step right over it and still look to Jesus Christ - the greater, the substance, the true. "But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation;" Hebrews 11:9
Peace,
JD
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The Jews were skeptical of Jesus because they couldn't see how He could be the promised Messiah. After all, He wasn't throwing off the yoke of Roman domination and ushering in the Messianic age right then, was He? That's what they were most concerned with at that time.
In the same way, you're blowing off the rediscovery of the Ark because you can't see how it's relevant to us today.
Since that's the case, I have nothing more to say to you.
Damon
In the same way, you're blowing off the rediscovery of the Ark because you can't see how it's relevant to us today.
Since that's the case, I have nothing more to say to you.
Damon
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If you are comparing me to an unbelieving first century Jew who desired to put our Lord to death, then I'll grant you the ad hominem attack, and receive it with patience.
I am teachable. Please explain the relevance of a discovered ark in relation to the new covenant.
Again, I look to Christ, our proptiation (1 John 2:2). Enjoy your search for old covenant shadows.
Peace,
JD
I am teachable. Please explain the relevance of a discovered ark in relation to the new covenant.
Again, I look to Christ, our proptiation (1 John 2:2). Enjoy your search for old covenant shadows.
Peace,
JD
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I think it would be really exciting if he found the arc and temple vessels. Although I don't share his belief in modern day fulfillment of Bible prophecy, I do think that the arc's discovery will help many people believe in the authenticity of the Bible and could initiate a revival leading many people to Christ. Let's pray that it is so.
Todd
Todd
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Peace?
Yup, rip someone's arm off and say "Peace", I love it. BTW, I'd step over the ark too, since the last person to touch it, that shouldn't have, got killed. (Peace! yer killin' me here..)JD wrote:"They can find the ark and set it on my porch, but I'll step right over it and still look to Jesus Christ - the greater, the substance, the true. -
Peace"
Hugh McBryde
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Yikes! I meant no ill will toward Damon with that comment. Please forgive me if you (or Damon) were offended. I was simply illustrating a point.
And peace to you too!
(sorry for killin' you)
JD
And peace to you too!
(sorry for killin' you)
JD
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