Did Christ teach that we should watch for the end times?

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TheEditor
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Re: Did Christ teach that we should watch for the end times?

Post by TheEditor » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:23 pm

Thanks Doug.
There's a grain of truth to what you're saying about Acts 28 Dispensationalism


All great thinkers only need a grain..... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Regards, Brenden.
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Re: Did Christ teach that we should watch for the end times?

Post by Homer » Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:42 pm

Here is an example of the kind of problem I have with the preterist arguments. First Ed Stevens admits that not only must Revelations have been written prior to 70AD, but that John must have been martyred prior to 70AD, otherwise preterism is dealt a fatal blow. As proof of John's early martyrdom Stevens cites Jesus' statements in Matthew 20 and Mark 10 about James and John drinking the same cup Jesus was about to drink. If we accept Steven's argument that this necessarily meant John was martyred, this is still no proof at all that John did not live far past 70AD and suffer martyrdom at a later date. Seems to me the only necessity for John's supposed early martyrdom is to save preterism.

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Re: Did Christ teach that we should watch for the end times?

Post by dwilkins » Tue Jun 24, 2014 5:09 pm

Keep in mind that you are repeating Ed's opinion on the matter of John. Most don't agree with him. It's certainly not a requirement to be a preterist. But it's not out of the league of opinions on John. For instance Eusebius, the most accomplished early church historian, was resistant.to having revelation in the canon to begin with partially because.he thought it might have been written by another John.

Doug

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