James 1:18 (firstfruits)

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James 1:18 (firstfruits)

Post by darinhouston » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:12 pm



I see this as possibly being a reference to one of the following... comments?

(1) talking about the first century Christians, and that there would be generations to come...
(2) talking about all who come to Christ in this life, and there will be more after... (UR view?)
(3) talking about Christ' first act of recreation -- the spirits of the believers first, and then later all of Creation.

What do you think?

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Re: James 1:18 (firstfruits)

Post by Apollos » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:16 am

my opinion is that the verse probably refers to the Jewish firstfruits (cf. verse 1), and that the idea has been taken from Revelation (14:4) which contrasts the firstfruits of Israel from the great crowd taken from all nations.
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Re: James 1:18 (firstfruits)

Post by Suzana » Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:47 pm

Apollos wrote:I hope no one minds me taking a new user name.
Hello Apollos

Do you mind if I ask what your old user name was? Sorry if I've missed something you may have posted elsewhere.

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Re: James 1:18 (firstfruits)

Post by Sean » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:31 am

Apollos wrote:my opinion is that the verse probably refers to the Jewish firstfruits (cf. verse 1), and that the idea has been taken from Revelation (14:4) which contrasts the firstfruits of Israel from the great crowd taken from all nations.
I tend to agree.
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Re: James 1:18 (firstfruits)

Post by Jeff » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:42 am

My opinion is that it is #3. All creation will one day be restored, and as new creatures in Christ we are the fruitfruits of his creatures in that sense. Although options #1 and #2 both seem reasonable as well.

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Re: James 1:18 (firstfruits)

Post by steve7150 » Wed Jul 14, 2010 12:36 pm

my opinion is that the verse probably refers to the Jewish firstfruits (cf. verse 1), and that the idea has been taken from Revelation (14:4) which contrasts the firstfruits of Israel from the great crowd taken from all nations.




As an historicist i think the 144K or firstfruits are symbolic of the most consecrated followers of Christ and the "great multitude" it says in Rev 7 still need to be fead and lead, but Rev 7 is a heavenly scene IMO.

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