Ephesians 6:1-2 "parents in the lord"

Post by **_darin-houston** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:02 pm

I have a little Father's Day question for you guys....

Our sermon today was based on Ephesians 6:1-2.

6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
6:2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise;

I was struck with the syntax differences between 1 and 2 -- the commentaries I've read suggest that the "in the lord" reference is to the instructions needing to be consistent with the Lord's will before before you need to obey. However, I also note the term "parents" in 1 and "father and mother" in 2. Is it possible that the "obeying" in verse 1 is intended to be in reference to obeying your spiritual mentors or those who led you to Christ, where the "honouring" in verse 2 is in reference to your actual mom and dad.

Anyone a greek scholar? Any ideas?

Post by **_anothersteve** » Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:40 pm

Anyone a greek scholar?

Not me

Any ideas?

I do have an idea.

In verse 2 he may have simply been quoting the command, as recorded in the OT, in order to solidify his point in verse 1.

Post by **_Paidion** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:17 pm

It might be helpful to look some other passages which seem to use "in the Lord" in a similar manner:

Colossians 3:18 Wives, be subject to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.

The idea seems to be that being "in the Lord", that is, being disciples of Christ, it is only fitting that wives be subject to their husbands.

1 Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia send greetings. Aquila and Prisca, together with the church in their house, send you hearty greetings in the Lord.

Sending hearty greetings is fitting for those who are in the Lord.

2 Corinthians 2:12 When I came to Troas to preach the gospel of Christ, a door was opened for me in the Lord.

Because Paul was in the Lord and operated in the Lord, it was only fitting that God should open a door for him to preach the gospel.

A few more to consider:

Ephesians 4:17 Now this I affirm and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds;

Ephesians 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might.

Philippians 2:19 I hope in the Lord Jesus to send Timothy to you soon, so that I may be cheered by news of you.

Philippians 2:29 So receive him in the Lord with all joy; and honor such men.

It seems that in each case, people in the Lord do things or are expected to do things which further the Lord's purposes.

And so:

Ephesians 6:1 Children, listen to your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

It is my guess that Paul had in mind Christian families, families who are "in the Lord. In such families it is only fitting that children listen to their parents. When children obey their parents the Lord's will and purposes are being fulfilled.

There's no doubt in my mind that Paul is talking about natural parents here, and that the following verse is a quote from the law of Moses to back up his request.

Post by **_darin-houston** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:41 pm

Makes sense - I'd just heard people refer to their "Father in the lord" in the context of their spiritual mentor and wondered.

Post by **_MoGrace2u** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:18 pm

It would seem that those "in the Lord" are the ones abiding in Christ. (1 John)

Post by **_Paidion** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:39 pm

It would seem that those "in the Lord" are the ones abiding in Christ. (1 John)

I agree. Yet, "in the Lord" also seems to refer to certain actions which are carried out in His name, or in accordance with His will.