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- Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:12 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6887
Re: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
Christ emptied himself of all but love He was given back what was His before the beginning of time, for example "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began" ~ John 17:5 before the world began is an interesting phrase because at times it means n...
- Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:59 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6887
Re: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
the reason that "nobody can give what he does not have." And, so, if Christ gives salvation, and salvation is nothing less than eternal life (and, by that, we mean a true entering into a share in the Divine Life of God), He Himself must possess in Himself this eternal, divine life. Which means He m...
- Mon May 27, 2019 12:09 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: Matt 28 and Trinity baptism?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 4814
Re: Matt 28 and Trinity baptism?
Upon further thinking, doesn't name imply authority? And so Matt 28:19 formula not being repeated anywhere else would seem to make more sense if in Matthew's account the idea being conveyed in baptism in the authority of F, S, H/S? If the triad mentioned in 28:19 is proof of the trinity then what to...
- Mon May 27, 2019 11:53 am
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6887
Re: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
I am not really fit to answer the question since I don't feel any real need to abide by westminster or that particular doctrine Nor do I believe my particular understanding of how the Father, Son & Spirit relate to one another is essential Christian doctrine But I will say that I do believe it is c...
- Sun May 19, 2019 3:36 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6887
clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
the protestant doctrine of the perspicuity of scripture is stated in the Westminsterperspicuity confession of faith as follows “All things in Scripture are not alike plain in themselves, nor alike clear unto all. Yet, those things that are necessary to be known, believed, and observed for salvation ...
- Sat May 11, 2019 1:26 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: another bad trinitarian argument?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3487
Re: another bad trinitarian argument?
The initial argument was made during a lecture by popular- recently at least- English Trinitarian writer and speaker- Michael Reeves
Once I started re-examining the Trinity instead of the assumption I just granted it for over 20+ years, I have found it very lacking
Once I started re-examining the Trinity instead of the assumption I just granted it for over 20+ years, I have found it very lacking
- Sat May 11, 2019 1:21 pm
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: Jesus became a life giving spirit?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2343
Re: Jesus became a life giving spirit?
I think the issue of 'when he became a life-giving spirit' is of lesser interest than the point that at one time, it seems that Jesus wasn't a life-giving spirit.
- Sun May 05, 2019 11:11 am
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: another bad trinitarian argument?
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3487
another bad trinitarian argument?
I hear Trinitarians try to make 'the spirit of God hovering over the face of the waters'- Gen 1:2 tie into the baptism of Jesus and the 'spirit of God descending like a dove and resting upon him'.
Seems like a blatant reach trying to read into the text but is this a compelling argument on any level?
Seems like a blatant reach trying to read into the text but is this a compelling argument on any level?
- Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:21 pm
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: Jesus became a life giving spirit?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 2343
Jesus became a life giving spirit?
1 Cor 15:45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. I recognize that 'became' is only in 45A and not 45B but it is certainly the implied meaning. So what do we make of Jesus becoming such? was there a time when he was not such a spir...
- Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:46 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: Son of Man
- Replies: 3
- Views: 1898
Re: Son of Man
I am sorry Darren. I didn't mean to confuse with leading the sentence that way. Perhaps this will clarify. We see that the Son of Man was given, did not previously have, certain things by the Ancient of Days for a certain purpose. We see in the NT a direct parallel in that Jesus was given, did not p...