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by njd83
Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:12 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Another section: God Speaks in Terms of What May or May Not Be Sixth, the motif of future openness is expressed by the way the Lord often talks about the future in Scripture. If everything was settled in God’s mind from all eternity as the classical view holds, you would expect God to speak of the f...
by njd83
Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:13 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Another excerpt for food for thought and comments: chapter 2 same book They “May” Believe One of the most interesting examples of this is when God tries to convince Moses to be his representative to the elders of Israel who are in bondage to Pharaoh. The Lord initially tells Moses that the elders wi...
by njd83
Wed Feb 23, 2022 11:04 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Another smaller excerpt for food for thought and comments: Chapter 2 of same book Note carefully, these verses do not say that the purpose of the testing was for the covenant partners to know their own hearts. The explicitly stated purpose was for God “to know” how they would incline their hearts. H...
by njd83
Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:26 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

I like that dizerner

Maximally grace the individual

That blesses me hearing you say that
by njd83
Mon Feb 21, 2022 1:26 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36210

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

A simple faith is just a practical faith. Like the sermon on the mount is just practical. So, a simple and quick answer is when you pray you are increasing the Kingdom Of God to whatever extent you are able at that time. The Kingdom of God is the loving reign of God, but not coercion or force. Same ...
by njd83
Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:53 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Thanks Homer That's a good article and a good metaphor. But I think its just a construct to hold on to foreknowledge. It would be cool if some well versed people put down the heavy hitter verses for foreknowledge. Maybe I can also try to look them up. I know the "Dwells in Eternity" is a big one, bu...
by njd83
Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:21 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36210

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Thanks for chiming in Homer I'm not sure exactly what you are asking, but if you want to post a quote of a scripture that indicates God's future foreknowledge of a person's free will choice, please do so we can look at an example. We could also post a scripture of God's pondering about a future free...
by njd83
Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:03 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

The Open View just takes the texts that seem to refer to openness of the future to be determined by free wills--as such; and the texts that seem to indicate future foreknowledge--as such.
by njd83
Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:28 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36210

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Another verse started to make more sense recently, since I have entertained the Open View. Therefore let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. -Hebrews 4:16 I think people may speak out what they think they believe, ...
by njd83
Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:14 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36210

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

This is very disheartening and discouraging. I have been trying to figure out how to understand this Deity ever since my near death out of body experience about 15 years ago. I am very convinced the Bible is the reliable book we have from God. I read the Bible first in the NIV which is not very lite...

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