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- Tue Feb 11, 2020 3:29 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: Love and the Trinity
- Replies: 87
- Views: 46379
Re: Love and the Trinity
Back to the OP, I was discussing this elsewhere and had the following further thoughts. The social trinity and a proof based on love seems really desperate to me. But, it begs two questions. First, if God can’t be complete without expressing His love in eternity, then what do you do when considerin...
- Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:43 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: Trinities podcast
- Replies: 33
- Views: 12666
Re: Trinities podcast
I've been out of pocket and owe Matt a few responses. But, I'll say quickly that I've listened to quite a bit of his material now and am more and more impressed by him every day. He seems pretty light on Spirit Christology, which is where I tend to lean even though its proponents have some weak sid...
- Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:27 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: Trinities podcast
- Replies: 33
- Views: 12666
Re: Trinities podcast
I only was in the same room with him in person
I talked to him through facebook. I don't want to say anything bad about the guy. I don't think he's a bad guy at all.
I will say that I thought his youtube presentations on world religions were very well done.
I talked to him through facebook. I don't want to say anything bad about the guy. I don't think he's a bad guy at all.
I will say that I thought his youtube presentations on world religions were very well done.
- Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:30 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: Trinities podcast
- Replies: 33
- Views: 12666
Re: Trinities podcast
Tuggy used to work not far from me. I've interacted with him a couple of times.
He's a smart guy... and a very thorough thinker
I don't find him persuasive on the topic of the trinity
He quickly dismisses arguments that I consider very strong. And I'm sure he'd feel the same about me.
He's a smart guy... and a very thorough thinker
I don't find him persuasive on the topic of the trinity
He quickly dismisses arguments that I consider very strong. And I'm sure he'd feel the same about me.
- Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:08 pm
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6888
Re: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
Christ gave what was given to him, so yes he had it but he had it because the Father gave it to him, it was not 'in himself' inherently but granted to him by the Father. John 5:26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. This verse seems to dire...
- Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:08 am
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6888
Re: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
This one really bothers me. I don't see how this follows. Can you elaborate? To the contrary, if He was truly God then I don't see how salvation works - salvation seems to have depended on His being truly a fully tempted yet perfectly obedient man (though God could have saved differently, this was ...
- Fri May 24, 2019 7:15 am
- Forum: The Trinity
- Topic: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
- Replies: 17
- Views: 6888
Re: clarity of scripture doesn't uphold the Trinity
I am not really fit to answer the question, since I don't feel any real need to abide by westminster or that particular doctrine Nor do I believe my particular understanding of how the Father, Son & Spirit relate to one another is essential Christian doctrine But I will say that I do believe it is c...
- Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:50 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
- Replies: 66
- Views: 22940
Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate
I haven’t read the book. But I watched an extended interview with the author about it. I didn’t hear anything approaching an argument for eternal sonship. He did make a (rather weak in my opinion) case for pre-existence (which is consistent with Arius). But I also didn’t see him arguing for the apo...
- Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:08 am
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
- Replies: 66
- Views: 22940
Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
I haven't read through this thread, but I just recently finished Matthew Bates book on the Trinity and it seems to me that he pretty convincingly demonstrates the eternal sonship of Jesus if one is willing to presuppose the NT authors and early church fathers were good at hermeneutics.
- Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:42 am
- Forum: General
- Topic: Presuppositional Apologetics
- Replies: 4
- Views: 5865
Re: Presuppositional Apologetics
I think there is a humbler form of presuppositionalism that simply recognizes that until we are working under the same 'worldview', there isn't much hope of coming to the same conclusions. So the key to Christian apologetics, in this school of thought, is to help non-Christians at least consider the...