The Narrow Path Ministries

Nice rejoinder. But unfortunately it does what all Augustinian views of God do, in my opinion, and that is that by your response, the father in my analogy allows the child to be killed-- because it is his neighbors son , not his . If you did something like that, the community would want your head o...

Okay CT the Adroit, :lol: try this one: You have a child with ADHD. You have a busy road in front of you. You know your child has a fondness for baseballs. A baseball rolls in front of you and into the busy street. You let go of your child's hand and let natural inclinations take their toll. You ar...

Hi, Brenden. Of course I wouldn't accept your analogy to a ball-bearing rolling down a plane, because a ball-bearing is a non-conscious inanimate object incapable of deliberation and reflection. That is not true of a human being, and that difference is obviously the critical one for purposes of havi...

CThomas, How did I know you would read that paragraph and then say, "I really don't see the moral point you think is so obvious"? :) I think you're right that some non-Calvinists also hold views that fall apart under scrutiny. Unlike Augustine, Luther, Calvin, etc., I don't think the Bible teaches ...

(Also, if the non-Calvinist answer is that God allows people to exercise their free will, then why doesn't God at least repair their fallen natures and then let them act freely with a non-fallen nature, where they would be much likelier to repent and be saved?) Hi CThomas, and God Bless, Your above...

Hi, psimmond. It seems to me that you are conflating two different issues, namely (a) whether the paragraph is internally inconsistent and (b) whether it reflects an immoral situation. I can't see an internal contradiction in that paragraph, and you don't identify one, but simply say that one exists...

I don't see the problem for Calvinism, Homer. It's obviously a true statement under both Calvinism and non-Calvinism that everyone should repent, and that the failure to do so will have adverse consequences. There is no reason I would take any different reading of the word "all" in this passage than...

The entire point of my argument was to distinguish between two different types of causes, one of which involves external coercion and the other of which involves "causing" by simply creating with certain proclivities and then "allowing" the behavior to occur without supernaturally altering those pro...

Dizerner, no need to apologize. I appreciate the opportunity to interact with different views, but as I say I do think the sometimes caustic history of interactions in this area can infect discussions from both sides. Please believe me when I tell you that I am in no way "hiding" my true views. When...

Well, I read the article you linked. It might have been more useful if it had actually interacted with the Calvinist treatments of the passages it listed, which are pretty easy to find, but as it is the article was reminiscent of much of this discussion here, namely a lot of assertion with little in...