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by RICHinCHRIST
Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:26 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

Yes, that is what 2 Peter 3 is saying, I think. ("Run out of patience" is merely a figure of speech, of course, but you understand what I mean.) If you follow Peter's thinking, I think you might see that he is explaining to his readers that the (or a) reason that the Lord has not returned already i...
by RICHinCHRIST
Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:18 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: "Theos" Graffiti
Replies: 5
Views: 7789

"Theos" Graffiti

My friend is a graffiti artist and he finished this piece on his backyard fence today. Thought you'd all enjoy this! I thought about asking him to put a .org at the end but he isn't a part of the forum (yet). :lol: THEOS is good enough! http://i1345.photobucket.com/albums/p666/Rich_Feola/image_zpsb0...
by RICHinCHRIST
Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:20 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

RiC wrote: But with God, will He ever run out of patience? That is perhaps answered in part in 2 Peter 3 where the early Christians were told that Christ was not returning because "the Lord ... is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance." The context ther...
by RICHinCHRIST
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:48 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

but then i ask myself what God's will is and what is it he wants and will he get what he wants? God's power is unlimited so what is it that would prevent him from getting what he wants? Mans freewill? Paul had freewill and when he saw the risen Christ it took him how long to change his mind? But th...
by RICHinCHRIST
Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:40 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

Throughout the scriptures a theme is made to the fact that ‘ There is no other Savior but God ’ Shouldn’t this theme be prominent in New Testament scripture also? Shouldn’t this theme be prominent in Paul’s writing, and thinking? Especially since Paul is consumed with scripture (Torah) and its bein...
by RICHinCHRIST
Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:53 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

That strikes me as another reasonable interpretation that could replace or be added to one of the other two that seem very reasonable to me. It's very possible. I also think Homer's interpretation is possible. But in light of the many other texts where Paul seems to make statements with nothing but...
by RICHinCHRIST
Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:47 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

Well, I would not say they are "presently" saved from anything. And He doesn't exercise His role as Saviour over them any more than He exercises His role as Lord. He is both Lord and Saviour to believers and neither to unbelievers. Saviour is in the nominative (think "naming") case in the Greek. A ...
by RICHinCHRIST
Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:41 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

You keep repeating the verse as “God is the Savior of all" and you continuously leave out “ especially those who believe ” as if the end of the sentence is neither a part of the context. It makes no sense to add ‘especially those who believe’ if all are going to be saved anyways, Paul totally quali...
by RICHinCHRIST
Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:27 pm
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Propitiation and Penal Substitution's Validity
Replies: 1
Views: 2551

Propitiation and Penal Substitution's Validity

I was speaking with the pastor of a church I attend last week about the different views of the atonement. He holds the penal substitution view. I wanted to listen to what he said with an open mind, even though I was honest with him that I have some doubts about the view myself. His main argument was...
by RICHinCHRIST
Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:15 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: My Case for eternal Hell
Replies: 214
Views: 78198

Re: My Case for eternal Hell

Rich, In reply to JR you wrote: The word "potentially" is not in the verse. God is said to be the Savior of all people, not the "potential" Savior of all people. This implies that God saves all people. I'm content interpreting this phrase simply as it is written. God is the Savior of all. If it sai...

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