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by crgfstr1
Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:16 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Why not Universal Reconciliation?
Replies: 155
Views: 88592

Re: Why not Universal Reconciliation?

crgfstr1, Homer is at it again, making the same false statements that he has made (and been unable to defend when challenged) for many years. He always claims that the arguments for Restorationism have to "explain away" scriptures, and are "philosophical." He cannot show that such is the case with ...
by crgfstr1
Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:58 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Why not Universal Reconciliation?
Replies: 155
Views: 88592

Re: Why not Universal Reconciliation?

crgfstr1, In your study regarding universalism I suggest you try an exercise. There are a number of passages in the New Testament understood to be descriptive of the final judgement and fate of the lost. Some appear to favor the traditional view and some the annihilationist view. Can you find even ...
by crgfstr1
Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:39 pm
Forum: Creation/Evolution
Topic: Why Are We Here?
Replies: 29
Views: 21940

Re: Why Are We Here?

I'm happy to learn that yours is the position of love being the source of morality, crgfstr1. Perhaps it may surprise you to learn that I also believe love is the source. But what is love? Love is not merely an emotion; it is action—action to benefit people. For that reason, I was surprised at your...
by crgfstr1
Sat Jun 04, 2016 12:26 pm
Forum: Angelology & Demonology
Topic: cursed objects
Replies: 13
Views: 13968

Re: cursed objects

Well, I'm rather skeptical of "demon-possessed objects." Biblically speaking, demons indwell people; Jesus cast them out on several occasions. But there's no record of Him having cast demons out of objects. I am skeptical too. The only thing that makes me think maybe is Paul's handkerchief. If it c...
by crgfstr1
Sat Jun 04, 2016 11:04 am
Forum: Creation/Evolution
Topic: Why Are We Here?
Replies: 29
Views: 21940

Re: Why Are We Here?

So crgfstr1, what do you think is the basis for morality? Are God's commands the basis? Is a morally right act defined as that which God commands? And a morally wrong act defined as that which God forbids? And if God said nothing about the act, then it's up to us whether to do it or not? For exampl...
by crgfstr1
Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:14 am
Forum: Creation/Evolution
Topic: Why Are We Here?
Replies: 29
Views: 21940

Re: Why Are We Here?

I am going further than that. I am saying if there is no God then why is Human Joy important? How can it be any more important than a fire burning? With or without God, it doesn't make sense to ask why human joy is important. It is intrinsically valuable. To ask why human joy is important is a bit ...
by crgfstr1
Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:23 pm
Forum: Creation/Evolution
Topic: Why Are We Here?
Replies: 29
Views: 21940

Re: Why Are We Here?

Thanks for sharing why this topic is important to you. The point isn't to dismiss their findings. It is to get them to think about the foundations (as you suggested). All of these secular ethics make the assumption that humans have value. That is the question. Okay, tell me why do humans have value?...
by crgfstr1
Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:33 am
Forum: Creation/Evolution
Topic: Why Are We Here?
Replies: 29
Views: 21940

Re: Why Are We Here?

I am going further than that. I am saying if there is no God then why is Human Joy important? How can it be any more important than a fire burning? We as humans may think there is significance to it and assign it value. I can find no difference between life and a chemical reaction. We have separated...
by crgfstr1
Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:20 am
Forum: Creation/Evolution
Topic: Why Are We Here?
Replies: 29
Views: 21940

Re: Why Are We Here?

A discussion amongst Christians on ethics is kinda stuck in a Matrix (the movie)-like situation. Because we believe YHWH created and sustains the universe, then some form of ethics is hard-wired into everyone, including the unbeliever. So it's impossible to argue that if there wasn't a god/bible, t...
by crgfstr1
Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:30 am
Forum: Creation/Evolution
Topic: Why Are We Here?
Replies: 29
Views: 21940

Re: Why Are We Here?

Simply ask an atheist or agnostic, and respect their answers. Rather than dismissing them. Regardless of what their answers or my answers are if there is no God then there is no way to know what is right from wrong. Though I agree with other posts that right and wrong are because of the cause and e...

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