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by Homer
Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:04 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Replies: 13
Views: 44383

Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine

Seeker wrote: My definition of it: “God was furious at sin and was unable to forgive even the repentant sinners, and so he sent an innocent man and unleashed wrath on him. Now God smiles upon believers, his pent up wrath satisfied.” As you might tell I have a dim view of the doctrine. But is this de...
by Homer
Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:43 am
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Jesus is God
Replies: 889
Views: 143711

Re: Jesus is God

Darin, You wrote: Besides if it's pre-existence and he was God, then it seems ridiculous to mention him being in the form of who he was. He would have just said "although he existed as God". Philippians 2:6-7 NASB 6. who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thi...
by Homer
Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:49 am
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Jesus is God
Replies: 889
Views: 143711

Re: Jesus is God

Darin, Doesn't this plainly inform us that His humbling himself occur prior to His incarnation? I do not see how it can be understood otherwise: 5.Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6. who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing...
by Homer
Thu Aug 03, 2023 2:12 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Jesus is God
Replies: 889
Views: 143711

Re: Jesus is God

Philippians 2:1-11 New American Standard Bible 1995 1. Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, 2. make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, unit...
by Homer
Fri Jul 28, 2023 10:33 am
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Jesus is God
Replies: 889
Views: 143711

Re: Jesus is God

Darin,

Do you believe in the preexistence of Jesus? I am unsure, perhaps a memory problem.
by Homer
Wed Jul 26, 2023 9:30 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Dual Natures
Replies: 14
Views: 3087

Re: Dual Natures

We would all do well to heed Paul's words:

Galatians 5:22-23
New American Standard Bible 1995
22. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23. gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
by Homer
Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:52 am
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Paul., Jesus, Lord & Yahweh
Replies: 5
Views: 1559

Paul., Jesus, Lord & Yahweh

In an article in "The Dictionary of Paul" on "Lord" there are said to be several references in the New Testament that quote Old Testament passages that referred to Yahweh and apply them to Jesus. An interesting idea I had never considered: Romans 10:8-13 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you...
by Homer
Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:49 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: The Person of the Holy Spirit
Replies: 17
Views: 3243

Re: The Person of the Holy Spirit

Otherness,

Could you elaborate? Sorry for my thick head but couldn't what you wrote be applicable to the oneness belief?
by Homer
Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:28 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: The Person of the Holy Spirit
Replies: 17
Views: 3243

Re: The Person of the Holy Spirit

Jeremiah, John 14:16: New American Standard Bible 1995 16 I will ask the Father, and He will give you another (allon) Helper (paracleton), that He may be with you forever When Jesus says the Father will give you another paracleton this strongly implies that Jesus was, Himself, prior to the coming of...
by Homer
Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:17 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: The Person of the Holy Spirit
Replies: 17
Views: 3243

The Person of the Holy Spirit

Often the argument on the person of the Holy Spirit revolves around the use of personal pronouns. It would seem the use of these pronouns would be strong enough evidence; after considerable study I have concluded that one little Greek word allon is convincing. John 14:16: New American Standard Bible...

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