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by steve7150
Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:09 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; God, and [there is] none like me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Here God decla...
by steve7150
Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:28 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

Act 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by...
by steve7150
Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:19 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

Wasn't the resurrection real? Besides, I'm struggling mightily to see how this has anything to do with whether God was persuaded or if the writer of 2 Kings convinced God was persuaded. I don't think God was "persuaded" regarding Hezekiah simply because God knew a fore time what He would do regardi...
by steve7150
Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:17 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

RND wrote: If God knew a fore time what would happen was God persuaded or was the writer of 2 Kings convinced God was persuaded? If the writer of 2 Kings misunderstood then perhaps the gospel writers misunderstood about the resurrection? Maybe Moses was mistaken that the burning bush was talking.
by steve7150
Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:30 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

When seen though the human perspective one might be inclined to think that God was persuaded, or convinced in some fashion, but how can this be when God knows the end from the beginning? Didn't God know in advance that Abraham would ask a righteous man in Sodom? Didn't God know in advance that Mose...
by steve7150
Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:04 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

Thus says the Lord, Set your house in order, for you shall die, you shall not recover." 2 Kings 20.1 "Hezekiah then prayed earnestly and persuaded the Lord to add 15 years to his life." 2 Kings 20.6 I'm not suggesting God can be persuaded but the writer of 2nd Kings simply stated God was actually p...
by steve7150
Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:48 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

Thus says the Lord, Set your house in order, for you shall die, you shall not recover." 2 Kings 20.1 "Hezekiah then prayed earnestly and persuaded the Lord to add 15 years to his life." 2 Kings 20.6 According to you RND we can not read this in a straightforward manner, we must assume God is in effe...
by steve7150
Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:10 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

What's to say that God didn't know in advance He would add 15 years to Hezekiah's life? If that addition was already planned out then what was the purpose God had in having Hezekiah pray for additional years? Because then God would'nt be adding to something already known. By definition when you add...
by steve7150
Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:23 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

Sorry if this sounds like blasphemy but the fact is the bible does sound contradictory when it comes to God's foreknowledge. For example if God foreknew everything that will happen how could he add 15 years to Hezekiah's life? "Thus says the Lord, Set your house in order, for you shall die, you shal...
by steve7150
Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:01 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Calvinism and Universalism
Replies: 123
Views: 44528

Re: Calvinism and Universalism

Did God simply know that Cyrus would serve Him or did God cause Cyrus to serve Him? How we answer these questions I think has a tremendous impact on the multitude of things we believe about God, His government, His grace and mercy, His willingness and His desire to forgive. In either case where is ...

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