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by steve
Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:50 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Conditional Immortality Links
Replies: 48
Views: 25467

Re: Conditional Immortality Links

Hi Paidion, You wrote: "There will be a resurrection of the righteous and of the wicked (There is no scriptural evidence that the wicked will simply remain dead. This is what the term "conditional immortality" suggests to me.)" I know you associate immortality only with the resurrection of the body,...
by steve
Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:57 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Reflections on re-reading these threads
Replies: 49
Views: 20005

Re: Reflections on re-reading these threads

Hi Homer, First, as I said, I did not imagine that you had the motives I described. That is why I did not understand how you would raise arguments that would logically only seem to arise from such concerns. The idea that the sinner, whom God purifies through fire, and brings to repentance, has "gott...
by steve
Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:04 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Memo to Jonathan Edwards
Replies: 28
Views: 15473

Memo to Jonathan Edwards

This memo to Jonathan Edwards from his church secretary came, by a strange providence, into my hands today, and I thought it might interest our participants, and possibly provoke discussion: Memo to: Jonathan Edwards Re: Your sermon "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" The Spanish Inquisition call...
by steve
Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:37 am
Forum: The Courtyard
Topic: Hello to all the members here
Replies: 4
Views: 2660

Re: Hello to all the members here

Hi David,
It's good to have you input. I look forward to more discussion of the conditional immortality position (and any other subjects you may post about).
by steve
Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:00 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Reflections on re-reading these threads
Replies: 49
Views: 20005

Re: Reflections on re-reading these threads

If the anger were coming from the other side, I would not find it so surprising, since one might reasonably be expected to be indignant when his father, whom he knows to be virtuous, is accused of being a monster. But why a person who sees his father as a severe judge would be angry at those who ma...
by steve
Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:45 pm
Forum: Revelation
Topic: Free Charts on Daniel and Revelation
Replies: 4
Views: 4213

Re: Free Charts on Daniel and Revelation

Freebook wrote: The time has come for God's judgements to fall on this sinful planet. On what authority do you base this speculation? Hal Lindsey told me this forty years (a generation?) ago, and many other "prophecy experts" said the same thing through previous centuries. Eventually, someone will b...
by steve
Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:55 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Reflections on re-reading these threads
Replies: 49
Views: 20005

Re: Reflections on re-reading these threads

Matt wrote: I think UR is more of a philisophical hope based on one's understanding of the nature of God than anything else. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. It is my opinion, though, that the CI view makes the most sense of the most verses. I can't say that I disagree with you. I have always...
by steve
Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:53 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Reflections on re-reading these threads
Replies: 49
Views: 20005

Re: Reflections on re-reading these threads

Hi Suzana, You wrote: you again said you thought your sins were deserving of hell. Given that this is usually understood by most people to mean never-ending literal torment, I’m curious that you don’t feel uncomfortable to be seemingly affirming a view which you are actually questioning. Thanks for ...
by steve
Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:56 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Reflections on re-reading these threads
Replies: 49
Views: 20005

Reflections on re-reading these threads

Because of my recently renewed efforts to fully research the various views of hell, I have gone back to read again all of the threads on this subject. As a result, I have the following observations to make, to which anyone may respond or disagree: 1. There is a lot of discussion about universalism, ...
by steve
Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:45 pm
Forum: Radio Program Topics
Topic: David and Shimei
Replies: 5
Views: 2711

Re: David and Shimei

Isn't it great that the biblical caracters are so complex, and not one-dimensional—just like real people? I don't know what to think of some of David's actions (even as I am not sure how to assess or explain some of my own). His killing the man who told him of Saul's death seems a bit severe to me, ...

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