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by jaydam
Fri May 06, 2016 2:03 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.
Replies: 32
Views: 23327

Re: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.

Sure. What do you believe would happen if you did not obey the commands of God found in the Torah/Mosaic Law? I'm not sure, but the only other things that enter my mind are obeying God's commands found in the New Testament. This would be Jesus' commands and more , and I believe Jesus observed and t...
by jaydam
Fri May 06, 2016 1:49 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.
Replies: 32
Views: 23327

Re: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.

Let me try going about this a different way: I do believe a person can only be saved in Jesus and not by the Law. So why would you "do" the Law then? Do you mean why would I obey God by obeying God's commands found in the Law? Sure. What do you believe would happen if you did not obey the commands ...
by jaydam
Fri May 06, 2016 12:08 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.
Replies: 32
Views: 23327

Re: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.

Let me try going about this a different way:
JacobMartinMertens wrote:I do believe a person can only be saved in Jesus and not by the Law.
So why would you "do" the Law then?
by jaydam
Thu May 05, 2016 10:01 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.
Replies: 32
Views: 23327

Re: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.

I understand some Christians are put to death for their faith. I am saying that if a person requires someone else to die for believing in the death penalty, while they themselves do not or that they do not believe in God , they are not standing for God or for God's Law they are actually fighting ag...
by jaydam
Thu May 05, 2016 6:23 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.
Replies: 32
Views: 23327

The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.

Many times your posts lose me, but I will try to parcel this one and offer a response. I'll just go through your quote and offer my responses inline with colored text. It is believers who believe the Bible and obey God's Law. I don't think believers should be put to death by non-believers if only fo...
by jaydam
Thu May 05, 2016 6:05 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)
Replies: 5
Views: 4972

Re: Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)

For any interested, I have found that the fuller document holding the quote I gave in the first post is not - at least in English - found in open source locations. Translations are available for purchase. I cancelled my order of the previous secondhand book I provided an abstract for and have instea...
by jaydam
Thu May 05, 2016 5:52 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.
Replies: 32
Views: 23327

Re: The death penalty, society, and the new covenant.

God's people are no longer ruled by a civil law, so therefore the civil death penalty is not imposed through the body of Christ. E.g. Imposed by leaders within the church, tracing back to the apostles through to current elders. In other words, the church does not take out an adulterer in the congreg...
by jaydam
Thu May 05, 2016 1:03 am
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)
Replies: 5
Views: 4972

Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)

So it would appear the quote of Rabbi Jonathan is meant to apply to the second temple destruction. It is interesting that it comes from a Jew and the significance of God on the Mount of Olives is realized. A Jewish Rabbi in the first centuries AD is identifying God sitting for 3.5 years on the Mount...
by jaydam
Thu May 05, 2016 12:59 am
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)
Replies: 5
Views: 4972

Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)

I have yet to find an online location for a full copy of the Lamentations Rabbah, but located the follow abstract of a book (Web of Life: Folklore and Modrash in Rabbinic Literature) which I have ordered. The book considers the entire Lamentation Rabbah and is described as follows: Lamentations Rabb...
by jaydam
Wed May 04, 2016 8:22 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)
Replies: 5
Views: 4972

Rabbi Jonathan Quote (ca. 450 AD)

I'll look into it further and let you know what I find. I figured if you had already done the work I would pick your brain, but since it seems new to you as well I'll check into it more.


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