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by 3Resurrections
Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
Replies: 66
Views: 37277

Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"

Ooops, I forgot one REALLY important verse example of the word "kai" NOT meaning "in addition to". John 3:5 (KJV) - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and ( kai ) of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God." The baptismal regeneration adherents...
by 3Resurrections
Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:56 am
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
Replies: 66
Views: 37277

Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"

Hi Paidion, A few verses where " kai " means even or namely (as Strong lists it). Revelation 1:7 (YLT) - "Lo, he doth come with the clouds, and see him shall every eye, even ( kai ) those who did pierce him, and wail because of him shall all the tribes of the land. Yes! Amen!" This verse shows that ...
by 3Resurrections
Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:23 am
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
Replies: 66
Views: 37277

Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"

Hi again Paidion, Part of the issue for attempting to define the obscure is that we simply lack the necessary vocabulary to accurately describe eternal things. Yet in spite of that struggle, as sons and daughters of God, we all have a compulsion to put into words our impressions of the God who loved...
by 3Resurrections
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:58 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
Replies: 66
Views: 37277

Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"

Hi Singalphile, Regarding the question of how God could be called a "Father" before Jesus the incarnate Son was conceived, and later "begotten" in heaven as the First-born from among the dead: Wouldn't God's creation of the "sons of God" (the angels who sang together for joy when the earth was creat...
by 3Resurrections
Tue Feb 19, 2019 11:27 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
Replies: 66
Views: 37277

Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"

Hi Paidion, Your argument might have more weight if Colossians 1:17 said that "He WAS before all things..." The fact that it uses the present tense, "He IS before all things" would seem to give Strong's "superior to" figurative sense to this instead. Especially since the very next verse 18 talks abo...
by 3Resurrections
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:38 am
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"
Replies: 66
Views: 37277

Re: Proverbs 30, and Jesus' pre-incarnate "sonship"

Referring to Anochria's and Paidion's older comments above concerning Psalms 2:12, "Kiss the Son…" was a directive given to the " kings " in Ps. 2:10. "Be wise, now therefore, O ye kings : be instructed ye judges of the earth". These "kings" and "judges of the earth" are the same " kings of the eart...
by 3Resurrections
Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:46 pm
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Is Damascus Syria? Isa 17:1
Replies: 2
Views: 5256

Re: Is Damascus Syria? Isa 17:1

If you are interested in a link which you would be able to share with this person at your church, may I recommend the following? https://adammaarschalk.com/2013/09/08/the-bible-does-not-teach-that-damascus-syria-is-about-to-be-destroyed-2/ This link is a very thorough treatment of the Isaiah 17:1 ve...
by 3Resurrections
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:23 am
Forum: Roman Catholicism
Topic: Presto Chango!
Replies: 50
Views: 69318

Re: Presto Chango!

Hi Paidion, Indeed yes, we do feel blessed to have parted ways with that stifling atmosphere. They call themselves an independent Baptist church, and currently, I think they have two other branch churches started by them which are under their supervision. Very ingrown. Lots of intermarriage between ...
by 3Resurrections
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: Roman Catholicism
Topic: Presto Chango!
Replies: 50
Views: 69318

Re: Presto Chango!

Hi Homer, In one respect, your guess is correct; that church didn't allow ANY who were not members to participate - no exceptions - not even for visiting ministers. The argument was that they would not be able to determine whether the person was observing the ordinance in a properly righteous frame ...
by 3Resurrections
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:03 am
Forum: Revelation
Topic: THREE Beasts of Revelation - #1 and #3 compared
Replies: 0
Views: 5740

THREE Beasts of Revelation - #1 and #3 compared

Contrary to popular opinion, there were actually three beasts that composed a major portion of the drama we find in Revelation: #1) The Sea Beast of Revelation 13:1-2 #2) The Land Beast (aka the False Prophet) of Revelation 13:11 #3) The Scarlet Beast in the wilderness of Revelation 17:3 Each of the...

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