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by Seballius
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:16 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Good to hear from you again Paidion; I write this because you have been absent a few days. What do make of Matthew 12:30-32, Mark 3:28-30, & Luke 12:8-10? Matthew writes “this age or in the age to come”. The universalist could say - “this age - law of Moses” & “age to come - Church”. If taken in tha...
by Seballius
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Re: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Homer T. Talbott’s argument I am not saying that I agree with him, but here is T. Talbott’s (Christian philosopher) argument. Talbott has offered three propositions which many traditional Christians consider are biblically based but Talbott considers can not all be true at the same time: 1. God is t...
by Seballius
Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:18 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

One of the things that has kept me back from universalism is when Jesus talks about the unforgivable sin (eg Matthew 12:31-32). However, I have not read how they would exegete those passages. But it would be hard to exegete away from this ...”it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or the a...
by Seballius
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:18 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Hello Homer You are correct about Fudge. I read and loved his more condensed version “Hell a Final Word” shortly after it came out. That book had me convinced for a time that conditionalism was true, but then I came across Peter Hiett (via youtube) at one of the “Rethinking Hell” conferences. At pre...
by Seballius
Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:50 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Re: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Thank you for your response. I have listened to your teaching on Revelation Chapter 20 and I can see how your view of the soul/body goes with that. In that teaching, you said that the first resurrection is when the believer converts or becomes born again. Thus, the Spirit of God coming into the pers...
by Seballius
Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:53 am
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Hello Bro. Steve It is always good to have your insight on a biblical matter. Thomas Talbott in his book “The Inescapable Love of God” comes up with the same conclusion. The determining factor in the disposition of the sinner is the nature of God. He is an evangelical universalist, so of course, he ...
by Seballius
Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The Afterlife
Replies: 17
Views: 7253

Re: The Afterlife

Paidion Luke 20:36 seems to support your belief. NASB “For they cannot even die anymore, because they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.” It seems that believers/saints are not like the angels until the resurrection. Whereas, the common evangelical belief is that t...
by Seballius
Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Re: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Paidion

Thank you for your responses. I am going to continue to study on subject (being/soul).

Homer

I have looked at a couple of threads and it appears that you and Paidion have talked about this quite a lot. What is your conclusion on the matter?


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by Seballius
Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:13 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Re: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Hello Paidion You point out the second resurrection had not yet taken place in the account. But the first had. So wouldn't the saints, martyrs, and elders, have been already raised to life? Won't the "second resurrection" be the resurrection of the unrighteous? I have studied and studied Revelation....
by Seballius
Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:18 pm
Forum: Views of Hell
Topic: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?
Replies: 54
Views: 11230

Re: Could Luke 20:38 support Universalism?

Paidion I am going to summarize your understanding of soul and then ask you a question. Soul is the complete human. Many talking about it in scripture refer to as an aspect, but it is the whole person. When a person dies, he or she is put in a pause mode because the spirit or life has left the body....

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