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by mattrose
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:42 am
Forum: General Bible Discussion
Topic: 2020 NASB update will be gender inclusive
Replies: 12
Views: 5099

Re: 2020 NASB update will be gender inclusive

While I prefer the translators to just translate words and trust me to do the work of understanding how words were used in the ancient world, I also recognize that the majority of bible readers won't be doing that work. Brethren/Adam in those cases do indeed refer to both men and women collectively....
by mattrose
Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:20 pm
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Re: Recent thoughts on Job...

Hi Matt, I am not sure what is gained theologically by seeing God's permission of evil as more general than specific. In either case, the character of God is the same. The difference is in the daily assurance given to the disciple. In seeing God's intervention as personal and specific, we are affir...
by mattrose
Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:21 pm
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Re: Recent thoughts on Job...

The problem with the reply is that when you allow your child to go out with friends you are usually not present. God is always present and has a veto over anything that may occur. Yes, all analogies have short-comings. The point of the analogy, though, was to show that there can be a difference bet...
by mattrose
Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:07 pm
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Re: Recent thoughts on Job...

What do you think it meant that God put thorns and thistles in our life It doesn't actually say that God put thorns and thistles in our lives. It says that 'because of you' (Adam) the ground is cursed. You are automatically reading this as a specific act of God, but to me it makes more sense to rea...
by mattrose
Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:10 pm
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Re: Recent thoughts on Job...

To your first point, if i had the power to stop the robbery and didn't i would be complicit, so God is either complicit in evil, or the allowance and also the causing of it on occasion is for a greater good IMHO. You would have the power to stop the robbery by not letting her have freedom. But once...
by mattrose
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:52 pm
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Re: Recent thoughts on Job...

Also I still don't know any real difference between God ALLOWING things verses CAUSING things because God has the power to intervene and apparently for the most part does not. What if you allowed your teenage daughter to go out with her friends and they chose to rob a convenience store. Would you s...
by mattrose
Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:09 am
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Re: Recent thoughts on Job...

Hello Steve :) I have no problem with the 'allowed' language. I just think God's allowance was built into creation... not so much on a case by case basis. I also agree with you that there are times when God intervenes to stop Satan from doing things (as with the Luke passage you mentioned). I guess ...
by mattrose
Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Re: Recent thoughts on Job...

Thanks Paidion... that is where I'm leaning as well
by mattrose
Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:54 pm
Forum: Poetry and Wisdom
Topic: Recent thoughts on Job...
Replies: 30
Views: 7112

Recent thoughts on Job...

I've been struggling a bit with the book of Job (one of my favorite books) Up until recently, I believed that Job (the man) was a historical person and that Job (the story) was literally true I still believe the man was a historical person (though I don't see the point as particularly important) And...
by mattrose
Wed Sep 26, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: The Courtyard
Topic: Preaching to Myself
Replies: 99
Views: 61601

Re: Preaching to Myself

Thanks Steve. I wrote this poem as we grieved We named you Noah We never got to meet you Until you were asleep Instead of tears of joy We used our tears to weep We are glad we got to hold you And see your hands and feet We’re so sorry that we could not hear The sound of your heartbeat We hope that y...

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