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by njd83
Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:47 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
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Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

I am watching the video, so far its interesting. But already I am getting the feeling that there is a presupposition "imposed" upon God about foreknowledge, which is not necessarily the case. "I know what I will do, but I will no necessarily do it" Its imposing this idea on the texts and God. Its re...
by njd83
Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:42 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Can you define your terms? Unsettled? Uncertain? Foreknown? Freedom? Free will? Past actions still being free? Future actions being the same in freeness as past completed actions? I don't understand how or why you are making these types of claims about the similarity between the past and future. I t...
by njd83
Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:58 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Hey Dizerner I have been having Boyd's Chapter 2 read to me with the narrator, and then re-reading the sections, to kind of really absorb and re-learn what has been so in-grained in my mind over the years. I am really trying to re-consider whether the Traditional View has any valid points against th...
by njd83
Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:03 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

A Virtuously Flexible Omnipotence First, many ancient and contemporary interpreters have used the potter/clay analogy to argue that God exercises unilateral control over us. They mistakenly read Paul to be using the analogy in this fashion (Rom. 9:21–23). Entering into a full discussion of Paul’s a...
by njd83
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:22 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Another comment I have is that if a person would say that God's complete Foreknowledge is something that is just something He has, but does not act "in time" with people as if he had that knowledge... or whatever similar version of this.... THEN... ....for all practical purposes the way a believer g...
by njd83
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:16 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Blotting Out from the Book of Life Similarly, several times in Scripture God warns people that he may blot their names out of the Book of Life (Exod. 32:33; Rev. 3:5; cf. Rev. 22:18). This raises an interesting question: If God foreknew from all eternity that certain names would be “blotted out” of...
by njd83
Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:53 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Another section: Why Create Condemned People? Another aspect of this passage is worth mentioning. Peter tells us that the delay in Christ’s return is due to the fact that God doesn’t want “any to perish, but all to come to repentance” (3:9). God wants everyone he’s created to turn to him. If everyth...
by njd83
Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:35 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

another section of chapter 2 Speaking in Conditional Terms We have been arguing that the way God speaks about the future in conditional terms is evidence that the future is partly open. It may prove helpful to provide just a few more examples of this pervasive tendency. In Exodus 13:17, for example,...
by njd83
Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:24 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: General Question about various beliefs held by various people
Replies: 153
Views: 36616

Re: General Question about various beliefs held by various people

Hey now... please attack the actual theory of the Open View. Not a strawman. I know straw men are fun and all, but limit the theatrics so I can actually see some legitimate attacks on the Open View. Now I know its easier and seems rational just to say "God knows everything" in terms of foreknowledge...

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