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by njd83
Mon May 08, 2017 10:46 am
Forum: Eschatology
Topic: Revelation 20:5 Confusion
Replies: 9
Views: 5805

Re: Revelation 20:5 Confusion

helpful chapter from Early Church Fathers. helps snap it into focus. Irenaeus book 5 chapter 35. 180AD. CHAP. XXXV.—HE CONTENDS THAT THESE TESTIMONIES ALREADY ALLEGED CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD ALLEGORICALLY OF CELESTIAL BLESSINGS, BUT THAT THEY SHALL HAVE THEIR FULFILMENT AFTER THE COMING OF ANTICHRIST, ...
by njd83
Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:34 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

Gotcha.

That's an important doctrine to get right to understand God better (foreknowledge, predestination/preappointing)

I had been puzzled on that for a while
by njd83
Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:07 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

Yeah I'm thinkin' now foreknowledge is not of all future exact whatevers

We literally have a free will I guess. I thought God somehow knew every future detail.

It's nice that way though. Freeing
by njd83
Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:10 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

I don't understand your response

If God knows everything but asks questions he already knows the answer to, that's peculiar.

We dont know everything so we aren't made like him in that area.
by njd83
Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:09 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

Yeah I think it makes sense to say he knows all things, but that we have a free will also. However, to throw something else out there: Did God not know where Adam and Eve were in the Garden after they ate from the Tree of Knowledge? When he asked them, "where are you?" Does he anthropomorphize himse...
by njd83
Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:02 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

I wouldn't say foreknowledge makes something inevitable. I don't think that applies to God. He does not coerce. God just knows how people will react to him, his grace, or to what fruit of his spirit/his word is being displayed at any particular time, and what amount of witnessing(through his spirit)...
by njd83
Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:47 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

Word in Blue/Bold is the greek word. Foreknow, verb, προγινώσκω (proginosko): ① to know beforehand or in advance, have foreknowledge (of): “since they have known about me for a long time, if they are willing to testify, that I lived as a Pharisee according to the strictest sect of our religion.” (A...
by njd83
Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:13 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

Yeah I did the Lemma morph search on that Greek word and noticed that verse as well It seems the situation on the understanding of predestination/foreknowledge is unclear not perfectly understood at best The fruit of hard line predestiners/foreknowledgers seems to indicate as well something may be w...
by njd83
Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:35 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?” (Romans 11:2, NASB95)

Those whom he foreknew must be those who become conformed the the image of Christ, it seems.
by njd83
Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:18 pm
Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
Topic: Predestination
Replies: 15
Views: 8422

Re: Predestination

“to do whatever Your hand and Your purpose pre-appointed to occur.” (Acts 4:28, NASB95) “For those whom He foreknew, He also pre-appointed to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;” (Romans 8:29, NASB95) “and these whom He pre-appointed , He...

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