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by darinhouston
Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:15 pm
Forum: The Kingdom
Topic: Praying in the Spirit
Replies: 1
Views: 38

Re: Praying in the Spirit

Welcome! It's an eclectic bunch and everyone is pretty respectful and things rarely degenerate like it can do on other forums. Interest comes and goes in various areas over time, and we haven't had much on the spiritual gifts front in a while. I hope this brings out a few new topics and increases pa...
by darinhouston
Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:47 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Textual Corruptions favoring Trinitarianism
Replies: 1
Views: 56

Textual Corruptions favoring Trinitarianism

Since this comes up so often, I thought having this resource accessible here might be of some value to the discourse. Some of these corruptions are pretty obvious. Well intended or not, scribal alterations to fit doctrinal understandings of the scribe are well attested and no real scholar would ques...
by darinhouston
Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:32 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: 1 Corinthians 10 - Jesus in OT
Replies: 6
Views: 135

Re: 1 Corinthians 10 - Jesus in OT

StevenD, that's a very interesting observation - I'm not sure this argument pivots around Jesus being the rock, but I'll have to look into that and meditate on it a bit - it's particularly interesting since Peter also was "the rock." The metaphor clearly was not lost on him. I don't see how that aff...
by darinhouston
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:40 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Worship of Jesus in NT
Replies: 22
Views: 325

Re: Worship of Jesus in NT

But some do. Also we are not looking for the Father to appear or come. We are looking for Jesus to appear or come - our great God. John 8:58 - Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM. Pretty convincing, wouldn't you say? Not at all. There are a lot of various interpretations of this ...
by darinhouston
Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:36 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: 1 Corinthians 10 - Jesus in OT
Replies: 6
Views: 135

Re: 1 Corinthians 10 - Jesus in OT

Homer, whether the rock was leading or following or in the way of Israel is not really a point being made here -- it is largely a side note. The larger issue is whether this is typology and in what sense Paul is making the connection. That doesn't depend on the word meaning and is a larger argument.
by darinhouston
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Worship of Jesus in NT
Replies: 22
Views: 325

Re: Worship of Jesus in NT

No surprise because Jesus said "I and the Father are one". John 10:30 Immediately they picked up stones to stone Him. In verse 38, Jesus said, " ... know and understand that the Father is in Me and I in the Father. Therefore they were seeking again to seize Him and He eluded their grasp." They told...
by darinhouston
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:52 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Worship of Jesus in NT
Replies: 22
Views: 325

Re: Worship of Jesus in NT

1 Timothy 6:15 "... which He will bring about at the proper time - He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, ..." Both "He's" here seem to be referring to the Father. If that is true, then we have Paul here calling the Father the King of Kings and Lord of Lords....
by darinhouston
Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:44 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Worship of Jesus in NT
Replies: 22
Views: 325

Re: Worship of Jesus in NT

Titus 2:13 "... looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus, ..." Whose appearing are we hoping for? None other than "our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus". He is the One who promised that He would come back. We are not told that the Fathe...
by darinhouston
Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:10 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: 1 Corinthians 10 - Jesus in OT
Replies: 6
Views: 135

Re: Worship of Jesus in NT

This is a pretty well reasoned discussion of some of the manuscript considerations. One reason I love the NET bible is you get the benefit of their analysis of why they chose certain variants and interpretations and can assess and consider the extent to which they are reasonable assumptions. https:/...
by darinhouston
Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:50 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: 1 Corinthians 10 - Jesus in OT
Replies: 6
Views: 135

1 Corinthians 10 - Christ as the Rock in Numbers

I've been looking into 10:9 because it is more problematic than the clear typification in 10:4 (and hence seems incongruent). So far, I have found that there is considerably suspicion of manuscript corruption here (as in a number of Trinitarian proof-texts). Apparently, Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanu...

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