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by 21centpilgrim
Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:48 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: 10 reason why should NOT be a Trinitarian
Replies: 2
Views: 352

10 reason why should NOT be a Trinitarian

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YHjvkTbJuI


7 minute video- great content and points that should be engaged no matter where you are at on the topic
by 21centpilgrim
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:31 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6
Replies: 21
Views: 1209

Re: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6

"To me it sounds like "the essence" of God , since God is Spirit & Jesus was a man I don't connect how it refers to outward appearance." The actions and teachings of Jesus reflected and imaged the Father. Jesus exegetes the Father through his own life that was seen and observed. That was what I thin...
by 21centpilgrim
Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:51 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6
Replies: 21
Views: 1209

Re: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6

When Jesus said "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.”

That is talking about ‘form' imo.
by 21centpilgrim
Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:48 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6
Replies: 21
Views: 1209

Re: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6

This is one of those times I really wish there was a 'like' button for comments.
Very well said.
The timing of the temptation, right after his baptism too.....
But overall, yes, in broad strokes it is very good to step back and observe
by 21centpilgrim
Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:56 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6
Replies: 21
Views: 1209

Re: "Being in the form (morphe) of God" Philippians 2:6

Great link and worth the time to read it all for sure. Thanks.
So Darin, do you think the passage is referring to the life/ministry of Jesus in general and not referring to a specific moment?
I could see that, since Jesus describes himself as being meek and lowly of heart....
by 21centpilgrim
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:41 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Reconciled to God , not Jesus
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Reconciled to God , not Jesus

Are there any other possible meanings besides 'pre-existence' to reconcile the passage? It does not say He existed as God but in the form of God. Could this refer to Jesus in the garden before his betrayal? Could this refer to Jesus being tempted in the wilderness? Both are instances where Jesus cou...
by 21centpilgrim
Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:52 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Reconciled to God , not Jesus
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Reconciled to God , not Jesus

'he emptied himself' 'he made himself nothing' 'he made himself of no reputation' before we take 'emptied' and actually think he poured out part of his deity, we have to make sure we are not saying more than the words say just to fit a latter theory. Whatever he did, he did it by taking on the form ...
by 21centpilgrim
Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Reconciled to God , not Jesus
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Reconciled to God , not Jesus

Not as problematic as assumed, but definitely challenges years of thinking engraved in my head. It does not challenge Jesus as actually God's Son. That is clear straightforward repeated NT teaching. 'Mere man', Christology is an early pejorative given to those who didn't subscribe to Trinity theolog...
by 21centpilgrim
Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:02 pm
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Reconciled to God , not Jesus
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Reconciled to God , not Jesus

We are reconciled to God, we are not reconciled to Jesus. 1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus 2 Cor. 5 18All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; 19that is, God was in Christ, r...
by 21centpilgrim
Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:32 am
Forum: The Trinity
Topic: Follow the Bible where it leads
Replies: 0
Views: 483

Follow the Bible where it leads

the way we have gotten to consider the topic of hell, the permission given or taken in the journey to understand what is meant by hell, possible alternatives to the traditional view- eternal conscious torment. This can and I think should be applied to the Trinity. As Steve has said before, ' the tru...

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