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- Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:59 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
- Replies: 13
- Views: 44537
Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Because it's the truth and always will endure. It is humanism, putting the fickle and sinful values of humans first, that minimizes how serious and evil all sin is, and how pure and perfect God's holiness is. If you believe the Bible, it fully supports PSA—you would have to just throw the Bible out...
- Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:55 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
- Replies: 13
- Views: 44537
Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Hi Seeker, I'm curious about your view of the atonement is. What do you believe the atonement accomplished and how did it do so? Your analogy ("Imagine a group of rotten kids in your neighborhood. How illogical would it be to attempt to remove their rottenness in the act of slaying an innocent chil...
- Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:31 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: Affirmation of the Existence of Old Testament characters and the Truth of their stories
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2086
- Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:44 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
- Replies: 13
- Views: 44537
Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
But the Bible never claims that God could only forgive sin by redirecting his wrath toward an innocent party. In the OT for example God forgave for genuine repentance only (often brought about by punishment). No biblical figure ever wonders “how is it that God forgives sin without a human sacrifice...
- Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:06 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
- Replies: 13
- Views: 44537
Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Because it's the truth and always will endure. It is humanism, putting the fickle and sinful values of humans first, that minimizes how serious and evil all sin is, and how pure and perfect God's holiness is. If you believe the Bible, it fully supports PSA—you would have to just throw the Bible out...
- Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:04 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
- Replies: 13
- Views: 44537
The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
My definition of it: “God was furious at sin and was unable to forgive even the repentant sinners, and so he sent an innocent man and unleashed wrath on him. Now God smiles upon believers, his pent up wrath satisfied.” As you might tell I have a dim view of the doctrine. But is this definition wrong...
- Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:54 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous
- Topic: Humour
- Replies: 19
- Views: 9939
Re: Humour
When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone he had three missed calls from Chuck Norris.
- Thu May 04, 2023 5:40 pm
- Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
- Topic: Jesus is God
- Replies: 889
- Views: 146672
Re: Jesus is God
This is the support for his house of cards - the only way out is modalism, which is itself considered a non-trinitarian heresy and inconsistent with other scripture (such as dialogue between the Son and the Father and interaction between the Son and the Spirit). A rational response would be to reco...
- Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:39 pm
- Forum: Family
- Topic: Thoughts on Parenting
- Replies: 5
- Views: 49591
Re: Thoughts on Parenting
Sad story about the trucker’s kid. I’ll just say it - being a long haul trucker is too much absence in a kids life and should be avoided at all costs. That consistent fatherly absence will wound a kid one way or another, and there’s no making up for it. My biggest regret as a parent so far was faili...
- Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:29 pm
- Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
- Topic: Does belief save?
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2573
Re: Does belief save?
First, I am glad that you understand "being saved" to refer to "being purified of our sins". For there are a great number of people who think it means "being saved from going to hell because of our sins". You are right also in understanding that belief alone does not save us from our sins (or purif...