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by Seeker
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:59 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Replies: 13
Views: 44384

Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine

Because it's the truth and always will endure. It is humanism, putting the fickle and sinful values of humans first, that minimizes how serious and evil all sin is, and how pure and perfect God's holiness is. If you believe the Bible, it fully supports PSA—you would have to just throw the Bible out...
by Seeker
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:55 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Replies: 13
Views: 44384

Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine

Hi Seeker, I'm curious about your view of the atonement is. What do you believe the atonement accomplished and how did it do so? Your analogy ("Imagine a group of rotten kids in your neighborhood. How illogical would it be to attempt to remove their rottenness in the act of slaying an innocent chil...
by Seeker
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:31 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Affirmation of the Existence of Old Testament characters and the Truth of their stories
Replies: 2
Views: 2022

Re: Affirmation of the Existence of Old Testament characters and the Truth of their stories

Paidion wrote:
Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:13 am
Good point, Dwight.
Paidion hasn't posted in over a year. This was his most recent post. Hope to see him posting on here again.
by Seeker
Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:44 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Replies: 13
Views: 44384

Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine

But the Bible never claims that God could only forgive sin by redirecting his wrath toward an innocent party. In the OT for example God forgave for genuine repentance only (often brought about by punishment). No biblical figure ever wonders “how is it that God forgives sin without a human sacrifice...
by Seeker
Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:06 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Replies: 13
Views: 44384

Re: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine

Because it's the truth and always will endure. It is humanism, putting the fickle and sinful values of humans first, that minimizes how serious and evil all sin is, and how pure and perfect God's holiness is. If you believe the Bible, it fully supports PSA—you would have to just throw the Bible out...
by Seeker
Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:04 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine
Replies: 13
Views: 44384

The strange endurance of substitutionary atonement doctrine

My definition of it: “God was furious at sin and was unable to forgive even the repentant sinners, and so he sent an innocent man and unleashed wrath on him. Now God smiles upon believers, his pent up wrath satisfied.” As you might tell I have a dim view of the doctrine. But is this definition wrong...
by Seeker
Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:54 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Humour
Replies: 19
Views: 9699

Re: Humour

When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone he had three missed calls from Chuck Norris.
by Seeker
Thu May 04, 2023 5:40 pm
Forum: Theology Proper, Christology, Pneumatology
Topic: Jesus is God
Replies: 889
Views: 143783

Re: Jesus is God

This is the support for his house of cards - the only way out is modalism, which is itself considered a non-trinitarian heresy and inconsistent with other scripture (such as dialogue between the Son and the Father and interaction between the Son and the Spirit). A rational response would be to reco...
by Seeker
Sun Aug 28, 2022 8:39 pm
Forum: Family
Topic: Thoughts on Parenting
Replies: 5
Views: 49208

Re: Thoughts on Parenting

Sad story about the trucker’s kid. I’ll just say it - being a long haul trucker is too much absence in a kids life and should be avoided at all costs. That consistent fatherly absence will wound a kid one way or another, and there’s no making up for it. My biggest regret as a parent so far was faili...
by Seeker
Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Does belief save?
Replies: 7
Views: 2511

Re: Does belief save?

First, I am glad that you understand "being saved" to refer to "being purified of our sins". For there are a great number of people who think it means "being saved from going to hell because of our sins". You are right also in understanding that belief alone does not save us from our sins (or purif...

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