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by Ralph
Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:23 am
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
Replies: 15
Views: 9304

Re: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

Steve7150, I appreciate both of your responses. Thank you. As you have explained, God’s heart may not have been broken by the disobedience in Eden. Until people have been enlightened to the point of understanding their weakness and neediness, God might not be grieved. However, I think we can rightfu...
by Ralph
Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:55 pm
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father
Replies: 29
Views: 13991

Re: Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father

SamIam, In the wilderness, Jesus three times heard an opinion from the tempter, and three times He responded by giving a second opinion to the tempter. In each case, the second opinion that Jesus gave the tempter came from His Father’s Word that was in His heart. I believe that Jesus was in deep com...
by Ralph
Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:43 am
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
Replies: 15
Views: 9304

Re: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

Steve7150, Much supporting material appears in this thread following the early paragraph on which you have commented. That later material may be of help for your questions. When considering the events of the fall of Adam and Eve in Eden, we must unreservedly ponder the depths our own human nature. W...
by Ralph
Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:05 am
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
Replies: 15
Views: 9304

Re: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

Ian, In response to my statement: “… we are unable to experientially know how individually weak and needy we are until after we have individually failed the test --- until we have individually sinned.” You asked: “Forgive me for diverting this thread, but if that is true (and I have often thought so...
by Ralph
Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:58 am
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
Replies: 15
Views: 9304

Re: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

Steve, thank you for writing. I add some later thoughts: Some hours or days or weeks after Eve was tempted in the garden of Eden and after Eve had discussed the matter with Adam, they eventually stood together near the two trees that grew in the middle of the garden. The tree of life was nearby, and...
by Ralph
Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:45 pm
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father
Replies: 29
Views: 13991

Re: Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father

Here are some verses about selflessness and some verses about temptation: Matthew 22 (RSV): 34 But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they came together. 35 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question, to test him. 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?...
by Ralph
Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:01 pm
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
Replies: 15
Views: 9304

Re: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

Cheryl, Adam was, indeed, with Eve when she ate the fruit, as the text indicates; but I think considerable incubation time elapsed between the temptation of Eve (during which she was alone) and the actual eating of the fruit by both Adam and Eve. Eve needed to have time to ponder the temptation, and...
by Ralph
Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:24 am
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden
Replies: 15
Views: 9304

Pondering the Fall of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

I had for a long time envisioned the events of the fall of Adam and Eve within the garden of Eden as all happening in rapid succession in the center of the garden alongside the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil. That simplified impression was probably formed after my viewings of vario...
by Ralph
Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:58 am
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father
Replies: 29
Views: 13991

Re: Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father

Ian, Thank you for writing. When I go to the public library soon, I will watch your video clip that you cited above (my dial-up internet connection at home is too slow for audio and video). I envision Christians in all ages enduring and triumphing over unimaginable persecutions and hardships within ...
by Ralph
Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:54 am
Forum: Anthropology, Hamartiology, Soteriology
Topic: Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father
Replies: 29
Views: 13991

Getting An Instant Second Opinion From Our Heavenly Father

Some months ago, it occurred to me that Eve’s error in the garden of Eden was that after being confronted with an outside opinion from the tempter, she did not instantly seek a second opinion from her Father. Adam didn’t instantly seek a second opinion from his Father either. Neither of them instant...

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