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by Perry
Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:00 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Charlottesville, VA Turmoil
Replies: 43
Views: 13629

Re: Charlottesville, VA Turmoil

I love when people say, "The Civil War had nothing to do with slavery. It was about states' rights." Yup! The southern states wanted the right to do what? Oh yeah, now I remember. :lol: Apparently Lincoln would have disagreed with you. http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/greeley.htm
by Perry
Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:23 am
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

For me there's no contest as to which view gives a more elevated view of the Creator. Dwight: And there's no contest in my mind which of the 2 views I accept, not because one gives a more elevated view of God, but because of which one I see harmonizes with scripture. I applaud that. That's exactly ...
by Perry
Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:18 am
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

So it seems to me we are woefully incompetent to understand why and how God created things the way the are. The important thing is that it is a creation, not some random purposeless accident. "We'll understand it all bye and bye...." I agree completely, which is why I thought the question about "pu...
by Perry
Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:10 pm
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

Homer, I was fairly certain you know I'm not an atheist, but I wanted to clarify in case anyone else got the wrong idea. "What purpose does it serve?" That's a good question, and not one that's always easy to answer when it comes to why God does things the way He does. Then again, this question of p...
by Perry
Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:55 am
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

robbyyoung wrote:Maybe, just maybe we are deluding ourselves by not simply trusting God.
Who in this thread are you suggesting doesn't trust God?
by Perry
Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:50 am
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

So which do we believe, science or the Bible? I believe both. Science, doesn't always get things right, so I view it with an eye of skepticism. My view of scripture is not always right, so I view my interpretation of scripture with an eye of skepticism. When science and the Bible seem to be in conf...
by Perry
Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:43 am
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

Homer wrote:But then I suppose they atheist would say the stars are purposeless, as is all of what we call creation.
I'm not an atheist.
by Perry
Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:42 am
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

According to your reasoning... By your reasoning... According to your line of thinking... But it appears that many on this thread just can't let go of their natural reasoning, even for a miracle. "Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom ..." Okay, well, it seems that by your reasoning we need not ...
by Perry
Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:29 pm
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

before the fall, how do we know natural laws were of the same rules verses sin entering into the world? If they were different then, then we have know way of knowing it, and therefore there is no end to what we might speculate about it. Maybe before the fall the universe was powered by dinosaurs ru...
by Perry
Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:55 pm
Forum: The Pentateuch
Topic: Is Genesis History?
Replies: 57
Views: 17570

Re: Is Genesis History?

...that we have to acknowledge the supernatural element in the creation account. And which one of us can fully understand the supernatural? In acknowledging the supernatural element of creation, though, we need not rule out that part of that supernatural creation was the the creation of natural pro...

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