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- Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:05 am
- Forum: Roman Catholicism
- Topic: Debate with Catholic answer guy?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 17985
Re: Debate with Catholic answer guy?
Tim Staples is pretty good for a Catholic apologist, but I thought you easily won this debate Steve (as unbiased as I can say this). Come to think of it, I've never listened to one of your debates I didn't think you won! Catholic apologetics in general seem very weak to me, since the foundation of a...
- Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:22 am
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Calvinism and Annihilationism?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2444
Re: Calvinism and Annihilationism?
I don't think there are any denominations and it is certainly way less horrific but still the idea of a small class of elect by God who end up with God at the expense of so many others who endure so much pointless suffering seems unjust to me. Of course my understanding of justice may be very limit...
- Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:51 am
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Calvinism and Annihilationism?
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2444
Calvinism and Annihilationism?
One of the most intriguing theological topics for me personally has always been predestination/free will. I have also become interested in the topic of the three views of hell. So something I recently wondered about has there ever been any prominent Christians and/or denominations that have held to ...
- Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:42 am
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Predestination according to the Non-Calvinist
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5074
Re: Predestination according to the Non-Calvinist
Thanks for posting this passage!
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:29 pm
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 46635
Re: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
That's the concern- not calvinism per se, but it is no topic for a newbie to get mired in. there are many more important and pressing things to learn. TK That's true. A good place to start is to just stick to the words in red (and of course the practical teachings of the apostles). I sometimes have...
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:14 pm
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 46635
Re: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
Hi Jeff- you have pretty much summed up my thoughts on the matter. God is so transcendant that we cannot know exactly how this all "works" and we don't really have to know. It's just a fun sort of thing to kick around but I agree that it isn't terribly important and can be distracting. A good frien...
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:30 am
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 46635
Re: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
I never thought I would start such a lengthy discussion! :) I want to say thank you for everyone for your insightful posts on this topic, on both sides of the argument. I tend to "over-think" things like this, but I think for me personally there is a danger of issues like this going from a productiv...
- Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:16 am
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 46635
Re: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
Hi Jeff-- If you had PERFECT foreknowledge (as God is said to have), it follows that if you KNEW i would have a ham sandwich tomorrow, then by gum I am going to have it. It is different if you just make a lucky guess. That is the dilemma. Since God is said (by some) to know perfectly today what som...
- Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:02 pm
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 46635
Re: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
Earlier TK wrote: ....do you think God "knows the future" without at the same time affecting free will? I used to try to think this way, but became convinced it doesn't work. I guess I'm too simple minded for this discussion. If God knows I will order a tuna sandwich for lunch when we go to town to...
- Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:00 pm
- Forum: Calvinism, Arminianism & Open Theism
- Topic: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
- Replies: 105
- Views: 46635
Re: Verse that refutes both Calvinism and Open Theism at once?
DG wrote: I think this goes to my point about accepting the idea of non-determnative foreknowledge based on the lexical evidence, etc. which on balance would suggest it is the more likely biblical view. I am just curious about what your position is-- do you think God "knows the future" without at t...