The Narrow Path Ministries

The fact he is judged and apparently has to address his debt in whatever way God designs is not a substitute atonement for Christ, it is a process of judgment designed by God, probably for a purpose beyond just punishment. True, nothing could ever be a substitute for the atonment, on that we agree....

Part of "saving men from their sins" as the angel said to Mary is the EFFECT of sins, the consequences of sin, the memory of sins, the guilt of sin. Only forgiveness from God can make it right, can make the sinner righteous. The effect and consequence of sin, principlly highlighted in the bible (an...

Your position is that if a sinner could pay his own sin debt he does'nt need a Savior, my position is that his sin debt may be paid but he is not righteous, he is not justified, he still has a prison record , he still needs a pardon for his sins to be forgiven and forgotten. So as to the question "...

First of all these verses (Matt 5.25) (Math 18) (Mark 11) are referring to reconciliation with your brother before it's to late. These instances do strongly suggest that God will not forgive you if you don't forgive your brother but to use these statements as doctrine about salvation and about hell...

it is for the sake of justice that the punishment fit the crime. "For the sake of justice" does not mean "justification." In the bible "justification" is the same greek word as "righteousness" to my knowledge, Good point.You and I actually believe the same here: I actually do believe that justifica...

Salvation is from Justice. If Justice is done, grace (salvation) is not. It is Gods will that man enter heaven on the grounds of grace (Salvation). Did'nt you just contradict yourself? Anyway if you are saying salvation is not from justice but from grace then we agree and that's why sinners paying ...

The terminology is obviously not as cut and dry in scripture as I presented it. Jesus says that the sinner will way every last cent of his guilt. I don’t really believe that this could be done. It could be that by saying every last cent, Jesus wants to show us that the sinner will be left to pay all...

You're leaving out the part where i said several times that even if the unsaved could pay for their debt, that still does not make them righteous therefore Christ must still be their Lord and Savior I left that out because I don’t believe it follows in anyway. Righteous: “acting in accord with divi...

Basically evil must be destroyed , eternal punishment allows evil to fester eternally therefore IMO it's not biblical. Paul said "Then comes the end , when he hands over the kingdom to his Father , AFTER he has destroyed every ruler and every authority and power." 1st Cor 24 Then Paul says God will...

Certainly evil exists in hell because sinners by their nature are evil (you being evil) as Jesus said therefore simply being out of God's will is evil and as long as God exists and man exists, evil can exist. However God said evil will be destroyed therefore eternal punishment can not by definition...