Thanks for the link.
It seems a bit off topic (or as an aside) w/r/t the Open Future View.
But I'll read it.
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Hi Paidion, I was referring to where you wrote --Paidion wrote:Rick, what did I post with which you believe Gregory Boyd does not agree? I have read his book God of the Possible and it's clear that we are on the same side of the fence.Rick wrote:At one time Boyd may have agreed with what you posted, Paidion.
However, he no longer does (if he ever did).
(And re-posting Greg Boyd) --Surely no one, including God, can know the unknowable. But He does know all that is possible to know, and thus we open theists agree that He is omniscient.
An Alternative Perspective
God's Sovereignty Incorporates Flexibility
The Open View of the Future (note Boyd doesn't say "of God")
1. God knows all things
2. All things includes future possibilities (Note: Possibilities are Ontologically Real)
--> Some of reality (past, present, and future) is definite and perfectly known by God as such
--> Some of reality (some of the future) is indefinite (possibly this and possibly that) and perfectly known by God as such
3. God Settles Whatever He Chooses Ahead of Time and Opens Up Possibilities Ahead of Time to Whatever Extent He Chooses
4. God is Infinitely Intelligent and Can Therefore Anticipate Each Possibility as Perfectly As If It Was a Certainty
Number 1. would be one difference.
Numbers 2-4 seem to continue with the same.
Greg Boyd's ideas have developed since at least 2008.
I'm not sure when God of the Possible came out.
I'll guess before 2008.
Anyways, thanks,
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Edited in, a few minutes later (to Homer and Paidion)--
On the Closer to Truth: Greg Boyd link --
Check out:
How could God know the future?
and
Has God settled the future?
I'm watching the first one right now (which mentions "God being outside of time" as some see it, Homer). The second one is a very good, concise summary of 'Views of Sovereignty' in terms of Calvinism, Arminianism, Molinism, and Boyd's version of Open Theism (aka, Open Future View and/or Flexible Sovereignty). Boyd almost repeats word-for-word from what I posted from his 2008 lecture (above).
Thanks some more and Happy New Year too!