The Narrow Path Ministries

Koukl wrote:Remember, you don’t have to master every counter-argument to every verse thrown at you. All you need is one unequivocal textual proof to make your case.

I think this is the root of most bad theology. If your position isn't consistent with and answer the questions raised by all of Scripture, it isn't likely to be correct.

Also, he makes the huge jump (without even recognizing it) that Jesus and the Word are the same thing or the argument from very loud silence that thought the Jews balked at much Concerning Christianity on lesser matters there isn't even a single sniff of shock at a doctrine at least seemingly in direct conflict with their defining belief of monotheism.


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Now you're equating the Word with the Christ.


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Like Ephesians 3:9?


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I've been listening to some David Bercot lectures, including What the Early Christians Believed About The Trinity. (As Bercot admits up front, the lecture is misnamed; it's really a discussion about the divinity of Jesus, and he doesn't address the Holy Spirit at all.)

He says that the early Christian theologians' view, in general, can be summed up by the Nicene Creed.

Paidion already said what I was going to point out: "The original Nicene Creed affirms that the Son was "begotten before all ages": ...."

That is to say, the Nicene creed specifically says that Christ was "begotten, not made." So that might throw a little wrench into the napkin argument.

Another little bit of an issue is that the egeneto word has a pretty wide variety of meaning.

Hmm ... well, someday we'll understand, I suppose.