Joyce Meyer on Jesus being "born again"

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Re: Joyce Meyer on Jesus being "born again"

Post by Paidion » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:57 pm

psimmond wrote:I think it makes more sense to say that when Jesus told Nicodemus that he must be εγεννηθη again, he was referring to the death of the old sinful self and the new life in Him (Rom 6:1-14).
I think that makes less sense, since regenerated people still sin, at least occasionally, and thus "the old sinful self" must still be alive.
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Re: Joyce Meyer on Jesus being "born again"

Post by psimmond » Sun Aug 17, 2014 6:21 pm

Paidion,
I think Paul views the "old man" as the person under the dominion of sin--a slave to sin. The new self is not sinless, but is no longer a slave to sin. The new self can still sin, but will sin less and less as a person starves their flesh--puts to death the deeds of the body. So maybe the person born again is the one who has determined to walk according to the Spirit.
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